Re: Rob Bell: A Very Poor Christian Communicator
| Posted On: 08/05/06 01:16:31 PM |
Age 40, FL |
Sorry, I don't know who Rob Bell is.
Sounds like thats a good thing, though.
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- Re: Re: Rob Bell: A Very Poor Christian Communicator
| Posted On: 07/21/07 07:27:50 PM | | Age 46, MN |
You said: "Sorry, I don't know who Rob Bell is. Sounds like thats a good thing, though"
If you are interested in a deeper understanding of what Jesus had to say to the world then Rob Bell is definitely someone you should get to know. He has online teachings you can download in mp3 format at
http://www.marshill.org/
You can also search for "NOOMA" on youtube to see some highlights of his 16 videos.
If you find many Christians to be hateful and nasty (yes I'm talking about you, Ken Silva) or if you find many Christians to be just plain mentally ill or if Atheism is more appealing to you than being friends with the average Christian you meet on the street today then you should definitely check out Rob Bell because he is one of the few sane ones in the bunch.
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Re: Rob Bell: A Very Poor Christian Communicator
| Posted On: 08/04/06 02:32:49 PM |
Age 16, -- |
Reading this article, I must say that I too find many severe problems in the theology of Mr. Bell based upon what you have said. However, reading the quotations (and then the entire article those quotes were taken from), fails to convince me.
I have heard rumors of some problems in Mr. Bell's teachings, and I intend to do much more research into such claims-but the examples used in this article fail to convince me.
In the first quotation, he talks about other religions and you claim that Mr. Bell is attempting to say that God created all religions. I do not see that in Mr. Bell's words at all. I see that in his studies, he is convinced that the existence and nature of all other religions is proof that we are all searching people. Searching for God ultimately, though many people take the wrong path (false religions). Jesus Christ being the right and only path. I would agree 100% with that view. To claim that Rob Bell is pluralistic, seems a gross misinterpretation of his words.
Also, in the second passage from the interview of Mr. Bell, I see nothing in his words discussing Christian truths or doctine, merely preaching style. And maintains that Scripture should be the basis of his teaching. Note he talked about preaching class, not his worldview lessons.
I am not attempting to defend him or put him on a pedestal, like I said, I have heard rumors about beliefs he holds that I wouldn't agree with and aren't Biblical- but I merely am pointing out that this article fails to convince me. So far, the lessons I have heard from Bell (in his popular 'Nooma' series) are engaging, Scripture based lessons. If we wish to warn people against false teachings, lets at least be fair.
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- Re: Re: Rob Bell: A Very Poor Christian Communicator
| Posted On: 07/21/07 07:13:07 PM | | Age 46, MN |
So you want to "warn people about false teachings"?? That's a very noble task. However to do that you must first decide that you know the truth and other's don't. That requires breathtaking arrogance on your part. Jesus had nothing but compassion and patience for people of other religions but reserved his anger for arrogant religious people of the day who constantly proclaimed they knew all there was to know about God. How arrogant must you and Mr Silva get before Jesus sends you two straight to hell? I believe you may already meet the criteria.
Rob Bell is one of the greatest Christian thinkers of our time. You two might do well to keep trying to comprehend what he is telling you. God loves you just the way you are and he loves you way too much to let you stay that way!
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| Posted On: 08/04/06 07:48:15 PM | | Age 51, NH |
This was a well stated critique. As author of the piece let me first commend you for your grasp of the Christian faith. I know many much older than you say you are who could learn from you :-) We don't agree on what we see Bell saying but I don't wish to argue that. What I would like to ask you to do is to follow the links to the other pieces for further information on Bell. Please know that due to space this article is very condensed. You will find the entire piece here: http://www.apprising.org/archives/2006/08/rob_bell_a_very.html There you'll see proof that Bell denies the substitutionary atonement and this casts doubt on his salvation period. I'm not sure how much you know about Contemplative Spirituality and its inevitable universalism but it is plausible Bell does hold the view (as does McLaren) that mankind is created IN God (panentheism - NOT pantheism) and therefore we are all divine deep inside. If so, coupled with belief in a universal atonement (Christ redeemed the whole universe - worng!) they would see all religions as valid paths to God on some level (very wrong!). So even if Bell doesn't believe that God "wired" people toward certain religions (and he may not), we still have serious deviations from the historic orthodox Christian faith. More than enough to label Bell as a false teacher and certainly one to avoid. If you would like to talk further, you are more than welcome to contact me at apprising@hughes.net Pastor Ken Silva
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