Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
| Posted On: 06/24/06 11:23:57 AM |
Age 45, FL |
Oh my gosh, I live in Florida and had no idea about this law that Gov. Bush signed. I consider myself to well informed. I listen to talk radio, receive updates from every conservative websight, including this one and I did know about this. This will effect my children as they are approaching the 9th grade. How did this go under my radar? I have been deceived when it comes to Gov. Bush and Pres. Bush. They are not conservative thinkers. This is just one more reason for private schooling or better yet home schooling.
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Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
| Posted On: 06/23/06 10:48:16 PM |
Age 49, MN |
While I strongly agree that the government should NOT be making the decisions about children's work futures, there is a decided need for showing other paths to success to our kids. As it stands now, they are only presented with "one path to success"...and that is a 4-year college. Labor and Education Department stats show that 30% of those entering a 4-year college drop out and another 30% end up employed in jobs that didn't require a degree in the first place!
These kids need to know there are other acceptable options to post-secondary education...and those options desperately need to be shown as socially appropriate, both to the kids and to the parents.
Otherwise, we will continue down the path of spending tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars to send kids to a 4-year college when they have absolutely no idea why it is they are there...they are there simply because that is what you do after high school....
And that's sad.
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- Re: Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
| Posted On: 06/25/06 01:56:11 PM | | Age 38, MD |
You raise a good point how not all children should go to college. I also understand how you feel about some people think one career is more socially valuable than another. My fear is that some children are not given the choice or opportunity to take academically rigorous classes simply because of an internal tracking system which makes it next to impossible to change your mind about what you want to be "when you grow up" This denys many children their God given rights to pursue His calling, whatever that may be.
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Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
| Posted On: 06/23/06 10:48:02 PM |
Age 49, PA |
Sir,
I've been an education researcher for over 30 years and I agree with your essay except for one very important point you've missed. Our public education system changed, not 15 years ago as you say, but shortly after President Lyndon Johnson's massive ELEMENTARY AND SECONDARY EDUCATION ACT was passed by Congress in 1965. It was then that the traditional American classroom was changed into a life-adjustment, psycho-social clinic through the Act's monatary grants to educational change agents who disseminated their destructive programs into every school district in the Union.
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Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
| Posted On: 06/23/06 09:16:16 PM |
Age 30, AZ |
Um I was reading this and is not forcing a child to pick a career before they are legally an adult is insane. I mean what happened to the first admendment rights of "free speech" which does IMO cover what job you will do. The goverment just wants to make all of us do what they want and I for one am sick and tired of it. Time to take all children out of public schools and home school them. No more public education!
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- Re: Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
| Posted On: 06/24/06 12:51:24 PM | | Age 35, GA |
Amen!
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Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
| Posted On: 06/23/06 04:41:40 PM |
Age 44, AZ |
I'm a Pastor. Do students in Florida's public schools have "clergy" as one of their career choice options?
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- Re: Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
| Posted On: 06/24/06 10:20:44 PM | | Age 28, VA |
Good point! I would LOVE to hear the answer to this question!
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Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
| Posted On: 06/23/06 04:29:36 PM |
Age 71, OH |
I knew this was coming several years ago. My wife and I took our twins out of the government school in the 6th grade and put them in a christian school and have not regretted it since. I have a grandson that graduated from high school and couldn't read his diploma! They wanted him to go another year, I said that they had 12 yrs to teach him how to read and didn.t how was they going to do it in one year. Its easy to control people when they have been dumbed down. I will forward this message to all on my email list it is a very good read and am looking forward to the second part.
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Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
| Posted On: 06/23/06 12:40:12 PM |
Age 20, WV |
I think this idea is very outlandish. C'mon, asking a 9th grader to make a major career choice? Also, having the government pick what you should go into just by looking over transcripts? That's terrible.
I am a 20 year old college student and I'll be entering my Junior year of college this fall. I am not even 100% sure of what I want to do. Most of my friends aren't either. I have a good idea and I have picked a major, but I still like the thought of taking any type of classes I want and being able to change my mind and explore other options. If someone had sat me down in 9th grade and told me that which career I should choose...who knows what that might have been. Children and still learning and growing at that point in their educational lives...and I personally wasn't as studious now. Upon graduating high school, I had a mere 2.9 GPA, mostly because I was young and slacked off a great deal, but would that have knocked me out of the running to be a nurse or a lawyer? I certainly hope not because my goal now is to become a lawyer and with a much higher GPA 3.33 and a good standing on the deans list, I think it's possible. I am just so grateful that my career choice wasn't planned or forced upon me in high school.
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Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
| Posted On: 06/23/06 11:43:58 AM |
Age 36, MO |
I think it is appropriate for parents to know their children, pay attention to the gifts, talents, and skills that God has given them and steer them vocationally into areas most suited to them. But with parents letting the state educate their children, it is only logical to turn over that part of their God-given responsibility as well.
Your article was alarming, but not surprising to me. Angie
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Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
| Posted On: 06/23/06 11:39:33 AM |
Age 30, ND |
I am a teacher in North Dakota. My experience has been that 9th graders are typically quite immature. Most students become serious about their lives toward the end of 10th grade and the beginning of 11th grade.
However, even after they have become serious, they continue to change their minds about what they want to do. This often continues into college.
I have a hard time swallowing the idea that this is an intentional communist wedge. This is instead a "feel-good" program so that Florida can pat itself on the back for doing something unique to solve its educational problems. It's style over substance.
True education reform is boring. It's a matter of raising standards (academic and disciplinary). Politicians want their names in the paper, not real reform.
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Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
| Posted On: 06/23/06 10:02:45 AM |
Age 66, AL |
Your article is on target. I studied Comparative Economics from a Marxist Professor while in Graduate School in 1973. The Department of Education and our Government has adopted all of Marx's plan other than, "He who does not work does not eat!".
I attended a vocational high school whose objective was to produce training for "Blue Collar" jobs for the local economy. Many of my class did finish college and excelled as well as the blue collar bubbas who became small business owners.
Currently I live in a county that cannot attract industry because of an undereducated work force,i.e. social promotion and dumbdowned education.
No one can make a race horse out of a jackass and our current educational system tries to assure mothers and fathers little bubba is a race horse instead of the jackass.
I am a firm believer in aptitude testing and I.Q. testing and directing kids toward areas they can find fulfillment. I also believe in an open enrollment for college for those who after being slapped around in life can return to educate themselves at a higher level.
While Democracy and Christianity sound good on the surface I have never worked for an organization that did not function from top down management,authorian hiearchy. Some one made the final call and was in charge.
While I feel we should have a choice in our life educating our population should not be left to chance otherwise we will have too many jackasses at the starting gate and not really be in the race.
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