Re: Noahs Ark? For Real
| Posted On: 06/17/06 06:36:08 AM |
Age 47, UK |
This is great if after all the evidence has been examined it turns out to be true. As others have said it will validate the authenticity of the Bible for a lot of Christians. The one problem that I can see is this. I think that if this find does after lots of investigation & examinations turns out to be Noah's Ark.
I do not think that the powers that be around the world would want that information to get out. It would mess up a lot of what they are saying & teaching in the schools. All Governments are pro evolution & it is because of that fact it is taught in the schools. Also you have the communist Governments, they are fully behind evolution so they will suppress this find & proof of it.
I believe that if this does turn out to be the ark, all facts & proof of this will be suppressed by all Governments around the world. As it proves beyond any doubt that God does exist & what the Bible says is the truth & that is something that the authorities do not want to get out to the general public.
I pray that if this information is confirmed that they get the truth out around the world as soon as they can, to stop any kind of suppression.
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| Posted On: 06/22/06 07:55:41 AM | | Age 21, OH |
I disagree. It seems more likely that they would spin the discovery than to hide it. They would argue: okay, you've found a boat but what does that really prove? They would go on to show how the discovery of a boat at the top of a mountain fits their evolutionary worldview. They would destroy the search for an ark in some peoples' eyes.
All evidences for Biblical Christianity will be accepted or rejected on the basis of faith, no matter how convincing. Declaring this to be the actual ark would be no different.
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Re: Noahs Ark? For Real
| Posted On: 06/16/06 10:10:48 PM |
Age 52, MN |
I think this is so cool! With what I've so briefly read, this seems quite genuine. There are also several reliable and highly reputable men who offer verification of the same. It will be even more interesting when further authentification can take place. Now---just so curious mankind doesn't ruin this treasure of antiquity.
Steve B.
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Re: Noahs Ark? For Real
| Posted On: 06/16/06 08:44:48 PM |
Age 52, MI |
While this is an interesting discovery, what bothers me is that Christians get all lathered up when an historical find is made that verifies what we believe.
It is almost like they say "phew - see - it is true" to all those naysayers and non-belivers.
It is part of our romance with wanting mankind to validate us and our beliefs since they so often reject them.
If it is the Ark, praise God. If it is not, then praise God anyway, because it is truly an interesting discovery.
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| Posted On: 07/19/06 04:39:53 PM | | Age 31, TX |
In my opinion,I think that to some of us Christians that it is a big burst of relief to get more non-believers to believe in God and know He is real. Because we as Christians are responsible for trying to win non-believers over to Christ. God Bless
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| Posted On: 06/17/06 06:40:53 PM | | Age 60, LA |
I agree with you. I don't need proof to validate my belief in God's Word, the Holy Bible, however, if this is the ark, then it will be mighty fun to see how people react to it. My own son does not believe in the flood, because he has to see scientific proof before he will accept something. I don't need it as a Christian, but if it causes some to come to Christ, more power to it. There would be something satisfying in watching evolutionists eat their words. Gail
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| Posted On: 06/17/06 08:46:41 PM | | Age 66, TX |
Rather than watching with glee the evolutionists eat their words, my hope is that would derive much more satisfaction in watching them put their faith in Christ. After all, isn't that our Commission? Some of the contributors here write as though apologetics has no place in winning souls to Christ. Others write as though our faith is blind faith. Evidence of the veracity of the Scriptures is a significant factor is almost everyone's faith walk in my experience. Certainly all the effectual Christian responses to those confused by the da Vinci Code have involved the presentation of evidence! The "evidence" afforded by the discovery of Noah's Ark will benefit many believers as much as it will benefit unbelievers. Among Christians, the greatest benefits will be to those who have put their faith in science first and the Bible second. The rest of us should be praying in faith that this is an act of God to bring about a great harvest of souls!
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| Posted On: 06/16/06 10:14:30 PM | | Age 66, TX |
You miss the bigger picture! While it is truly exciting to me and other Christians to have our faith verified, the eternal benefit to the unbelievers is immeasureably greater! Think of how many will reconsider the gospel message when faced with proof of the veracity of the Old Testament's historical record! Pray for a great harvest!
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| Posted On: 06/17/06 08:00:30 AM | | Age 52, VA |
I too find the possible discovery of Noah's Ark as interesting and exciting. However as a catalyst for bringing unbelievers to repentence I defer to the Bible.
Luke 16:31 He said to him, If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.
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| Posted On: 06/18/06 02:18:29 PM | | Age 69, AZ |
Friends:
Having watched the searches for Noah's Ark over many years, I want to urge considerable caution in the use of this story as an apologetic at the present time. There have been far too many fakes, misinterpretations and outright frauds in the past. While the news is exciting, let's not overdo the publicity until it has been independently verified.
As a retired research scientist and active creationist, I have noted many flamboyant assertions regarding "proofs" for Biblical Christianity. The search for the "silver bullet" that will once for all prove evolutionists and other scoffers wrong and bring them to their knees has taken many unfriendly turns over the years.
Regards,
John R. Meyer, Ph.D.
Director of the Van Andel Creation Research Center (Retired)
Creation Research Society
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| Posted On: 06/19/06 10:19:18 PM | | Age 53, OH |
I could not agree more.
If they are really serious, they need to submit their findings to Dr. William G. Dever, extinguished professor emeritus of Ancient Near Eastern Archaeology, at the University of Arizona, in Tucson. Let him scientifically examine them. He has the authority and ability to introduce the findings to the entire scholarly world. He was my mentor for six years, and is the foremost living Old Testament Archeologist in the world. He was president of the William F. Albright School of Archaeology in Jerusalem, president of the American Schools of Oriental Research, and was editor of the Biblical Archaeologist, and the Bulletin of the American Schools of Oriental Research for a number of years. He studied under G. Earnest Wright, at Harvard, who was mentored by Albright himself.
Thanks,
Rev. G. Edward Diller
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| Posted On: 07/11/06 05:59:19 PM | | Age 46, FL |
Great, but unfortunately the professor was "extinguished".
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Re: Noahs Ark? For Real
| Posted On: 06/16/06 08:24:26 PM |
Age 52, AL |
Thank you for being persistant in finding what you believe in. Whether the treasure is The Ark, or not, it is a huge discovery of the past. It appears religion plays an important role in the site region. That, in itself, is quite rewarding.
You are an inspiration to the world. The best to you and your team as you find ways to share your findings.
Alice Kemp
Staff of The University of Alabama
Tuscaloosa, Alabama
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| Posted On: 06/29/06 05:39:52 PM | | Age 42, HI |
This appears to me to be a very, very interesting, anomalous, ancient wooden object at a very significant altitude.
However, I'm not personally getting bell-ringing "ship" or "ark" connections, other than that it might be inferred (how else could it get there?).
It could have been floated there, but it could also have been lifted there by catastrophic upheaval. Could be a ship/boat/barge, could be ancient wooden structure.
I've been interested in and studying this topic since I was a child, and can say that, for me, none of the 'sightings' on Ararat, proper have ever held water for me, personally.
However, I find the Durupinar site in Turkey particularly compelling in part because of the ancient place-names surrounding the site that support the "it's the Noah's Ark" thesis.
I'd be interested in a similar analysis of what the indigenous peoples of the area in question think about the object, the mountain it was found on, etc.
I'd also be interested as to what the folks who found this object think about Durupinar.
To sum up, not coming from a "there was no Noah, no Ark" place at all. Rather I'm saying "there's an Ark, and at this point I'm convinced it's at Durupinar in Turkey."
But this is really cool and interesting and I can't wait to learn more.
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| Posted On: 06/30/06 09:13:05 AM | | Age 46, TX |
Truth is truth no matter what we think or say; but as for bringing in big name evangelists to validate this find is plain wrong, becuase it distorts the information wether it is accurate or not. Ron Wyatt had nothing to gain and didn't try to persuade anybody to join his camp, he just presented the facts as he saw them. I'll stay with the late Mr Wyatt. Shame on the big name church leaders for validating this find with emotions and opinions but not facts.
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- Ron Wyatt
| Posted On: 10/10/06 03:35:09 AM | | Age 46, FL |
Im sorry! But Ron Wyatt Was a scam artist.
All his claims were foney.
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| Posted On: 06/30/06 08:18:32 AM | | Age 41, LA |
I am glad that God is still on His throne. I believe that this is a message for our time and current dispensation. In a period when we are faced with the rejection of the gospel among new believers and the spirit of the antichrist in our nation trying harder to destroy the youth of our nation(s), I am sure that any discovery made here goes to God and not man. For He (God) has planned it for a time such as this.Ever weapon that the enemy brings aganist His foundation, the Word has declared that truth must prevail.I am excited that I am living in the age where the fight for the Kingdom is becoming one unlike ever before. I am also excited that he is still using men, aside for spreading the gospel, to make make His Kingdom known. May God get the glory and ever man a lie...I also feel that this will not be the last discovery of the existence and truth of God to men who know Him not.
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| Posted On: 07/28/06 05:04:05 PM | | Age 51, AL |
i AGREE WITH YOU 100%. IF PEOPLE LOOK AROUND THEM .THEY WILL SEE WE ARE CLOSE TO THE END TIMES. GOD IS SENDING US A MESSAGE.To try and make us beleive in him, before its to late
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| Posted On: 07/04/06 10:30:27 AM | | Age 57, OH |
This is very likely the true Ark of Noah. I have followed Ark research and read everything available on the subject. Due to the claims of so many to have seen the Ark, I was convinced it was on present day Ararat. But one thought nagged me. Why have the Ark land on such an inaccessible, forbidding place as the mountain in Turkey. However this seem to agree with logic, and could easily be referred to as "The mountains of Ararat".
If this proves to be the Ark, it should only reinforce faith. Faith does not NEED tangible evidence, but it does require a basis. Sadly those who do not have faith will refuse to believe no matter what. That is human nature for some.
But I have been researching another area which corroborates the flood, Babel and events back to and including the Garden of Eden. There happens to be an INCREDIBLE amount of evidence to indicate these are actual events, thus history.
The scientists who will disagree have been basing their facts on a false premise and so the facts that don't agree with preconceived ideas are ignored. Looking at these facts from the proper perspective is like a giant light bulb going off.
I intend to share these amazing finds in a book. If there are any interested in discussing this further I suggest you write (at first so I can deal with serious people only) your thoughts to PO Box 171, Wadsworth, Ohio 44282.
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| Posted On: 07/04/06 07:21:10 PM | | Age 68, OH |
I have been studying scripture for over 40 plus years, yes there was a Noah's Ark, thats not a problem for me, how many righteouswere saved on it? "ONE" Noah his famil;y was saved because of his righeousness they had none and there were no converts in all the time it took for him to build the ark, even those who worked on it for him thought he was crazy, Butr you see it makes no difference to me whether there are people who believe there was an ark or not. Period. We who believe and in a new Ark and that ark is Christ. Just a little thoughht to throw out for someone to think about.
Plus there is suchj a thing is mutation among species, so there was in all probabilit not 6000 species at that time, and we know there couldnot have been any dinosours for they inhabited earth long before mankind, before its first distruction Genesis 1:2 chaos and vacant.
after that time mankind was put on the earth. in the six days of reconstruction of earth.
Koch
celestials1938@msn.com
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| Posted On: 08/18/06 11:59:30 PM | | Age 46, IA |
If dinosaurs existed years before humans, they would have had to die. But it was the sin of Adam and Eve that brought death into the world. Face it, humans and dinosaurs existed side-by-side!
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| Posted On: 07/01/07 12:26:35 PM | | Age 74, TN |
See :"Noah's Ark, Fact or Fable" by Violet Cummings
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