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Re: Noahs Ark? For Real

Posted On: 07/03/06 07:08:44 PM

Age 46, VA

The pictures made available are not very conclusive. However the article does state that whatever it is, it's about 400 feet long. Could it be a wooden home, some type of Castle, or worship home built by the ancients ? I dont think so. Depending on how old this petrified wood is which must be very old, I dont think back then the ancients used that technology to build their homes. They mostly used stone or mud, but I could be wrong. I wish there were more convincing pictures, but in all my heart I hope this is Noahs Ark. I have been a beleiver for the past 25 years, not that I need the Ark to justify my faith, but it would be a boost and it would shut the mouth of many sceptics. By the way it rained 13 inches in 3 days in Washington DC last week. A record !
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Posted On: 01/08/07 03:24:39 PM Age 39, FL
Of course they could build this way prior to the flood, HELLO how did the ark get built? On current abilities, not superhuman ones. God just gave the dimentsions, there is no record of the people being amazed at teh building other then the lack of water.
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Posted On: 09/20/06 02:09:33 AM Age 58, AB
The Word says, "and the earth shall be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord, as the water covers the sea." (Hab 2:14) Many Christians believe that we are in that time of the knowledge of the glory, right now. How fitting that Noah's ark would finally be found now, when knowledge of the glory of the Lord is being poured out. Could this be the beginning of many wonders about to take place on planet earth to assist in the great harvest of souls? God's timing is always right on & marvelous. I,for one, hope this is THE ark. But if it is, brace yourselves for the storm of controversy that will inevitably ensue. AML
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Re: Noahs Ark? For Real

Posted On: 07/03/06 01:17:11 PM

Age 39, PA

Look there may have in fact have been an ark of Noah, however it did not carry 2 of every anilmal on earth. There are like 6000 spiecies of beetle alone. I ask you how long does it take to feed 2 of every animal? This is an idea that is just rediculous. There were no dinsaurs living at the time of Noah. See any cave paintings of a T-Rex lately. NO because they didn't live at the same time. The bible is full of these silly stories. Like the tower of Babel. One can not bulid a building to heaven anyway there is no oxygen at the height they thought that they could build it to. Is it still a sin to build tall buildings. Hmmm I wonder. LOL The Earth was allready in existance before any god would have gotten to it like it says, otherwise how could he come upon it like it says. Unless it was allready there to come upon. That is not how the Earth was formed. It was the Big Bang THAT STARTED EVERYTHING. At least that makes more sense than a god doing it. Hopw long did it take him to decide to create the Earth, was he lonely for a long time without us around? he he ha ha Also have you found any elephants embeaded in rock like the dino bones. NO is the answer to that AS WELL. The Earth is billions of years old, get over it allready.......
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Re: Re: Noahs Ark? For Real
Posted On: 02/01/07 02:21:27 PM Age 48, MI
You should watch "The Privileged Planet" DVD by Illustra Media. Fascinating!!!
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Re: Re: Noahs Ark? For Real
Posted On: 02/01/07 02:21:00 PM Age 48, MI
You should watch "The Privileged Planet" by Illustra Media. Fascinating!!!
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Re: Re: Noahs Ark? For Real - cave drawings
Posted On: 08/05/06 12:44:38 AM Age 42, TX
Check out this info regarding cave / dinosaur drawings... http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v19/i2/stone.asp
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Re: Re: Noahs Ark? For Real
Posted On: 07/14/06 09:46:48 AM Age 24, NJ
Beetles live in mud and can thrive in water like many insects and marine animals... The ark only contained animals that couldn't have survived otherwise.
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Re: Re: Noahs Ark? For Real
Posted On: 07/11/06 05:23:45 PM Age 50, WI
i want to reply with a different concept. you may understand it better. there are certain things even in our own lifetime that will define. first, the dino's were much larger than the human counterparts, also the animals may have been babies. dino's, because of the size found in fossils is really an indication to me that because of higher oxygen content in the dino's, they stay afloat a lot longer than the other dead animals, humans, bugs. because they were smaller, they sank sooner.sinking to the bottom of silt and mud. when was the last time archaologists found the complete fossil remains of the smaller animals? i would think that you would have to dig a lot deeper for those. also consider the water pressure applied at greater depths.the remaining sediment which moved around the planet for 150 days. you got some serious digging for them bones. and about the ark! water was deep. water also helps in petrification. the bible says that the ark landed in the mountains of ararat, not mount ararat. this mountain in iran is part of that range. dino's are probably here with us in smaller forms. after all adam was 930 years old. and no lizard lives that long anymore. the animals came under the curse of sin and death just like us. the animals die and know not why. adam was alive when all his children were alive except noah. spark
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Re: Re: Noahs Ark? For Real
Posted On: 07/11/06 02:58:06 AM Age 26, CA
I feel really sorry for you)-: Honestly and truly. I think you might try reading the book.... "The Case for a Creator" author, Lee Strobel I have read it, this book gives SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE THAT POINTS TOWARDS GOD. Once you read this book I think you might start re- evaluating your heart. I hope this will help you out.
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Re: Re: Noahs Ark? For Real
Posted On: 07/05/06 05:23:55 PM Age 64, SA
Wonderful to get more and more proof that the Word of God is true...strange how much effort people use to try and deny it! As many different breeds of dogs(perhaps even jackall and wolves) were developed in a few years from one basic dog, why not the same with beetles etc? Then one pair could have been enough for Noah. The Bible never states that the earth was created in the beginning of Genesis...it was already there...just void and in a state of chaos.(No Big Bang needed!) God created in six days what we can see today, ...perhaps on the blueprint of what He created millions of years before...(even started it with evolution for all we know) The remains from the Mamouth and Dinosaurus could have been burried there for millions of years already, from before a previous destruction...no argument, the Bible does not say it nor deny it. What will lie burried under the surface of the earth after the next destruction of this world as in Revelation, may be as huge a mystery to the next creation as this one is for us! Pieter Hugo
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Re: Re: Noahs Ark? For Real
Posted On: 07/05/06 02:34:36 PM Age 47, NC
Your points are well taken. It makes sense that the existence of galaxies and universes today would have originated from a massive explosion. The activities that continue to occur throughout the heavens with new stars being born and black holes being discovered, its seems logical that a radical activity far greater than any imagination effected the origin and existence of the heavens and earth. The Big Bang may offer explanation for the effect, but to satisfy science, what was the cause? Good Science must explain not only the cause of the explosion, but should explain the origin of the existence of the mass of matter that exploded. I know that the bible does not explain the origin of God, but only that through the wisdom of God the heavens and earth were created by God. The scholarly mind may easily observe the massive holes and gaps in the creation account of its unreasonableness. What seems to challenge educated minds is the unreasonable timeline associated with a 6 day creation and the creation of an environment that was suitable for habitation is just 6 short days. How could such of an event occur with all that we know about the earth and its atmosphere? You make a great point of the unreasonableness for mankind to think that it is possible to build a tower that could reach into heaven, especially where oxygen is non-existent. How ludicrous! Mankind has evolved to such an intellectual level that we can now criticize the unreasonableness of our ancestry and absurdity of our history. While those with scholarly intent may see the biblical record filled with holes and gaps that lack satisfactorily explanation of the origin and existence of the heavens and earth, the Author of the bible clearly states its purpose and existence within the written pages. Mankind exists to relate with others, which is humanity, and ultimately man exists for a relationship with God (Jn 3:16), which will be in eternity. If the ark is someday conclusively discovered, that may cause another dilemma for the scholarly and academically gifted. Is it possible for a 40 day rain to cover the entire earth, even above its highest peak, with water?
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Re: Re: Noah's Ark? For Real
Posted On: 07/05/06 01:34:44 PM Age 35, TN
Clearly, you are passionate about your disagreement with Creation and the Bible record about Noah's Ark, but like most people who don't believe in something or the other you offer little evidence that supports your position. Your assumption that no dinosaurs (or dinosaur eggs, perhaps?) were on the ark because they had died millions of years before is based on what? Where is the proof of that? Please don't say carbon dating proves it, because that method of testing the age of an has been proven to be easily manipulated. Your absolute belief that an explosion happened in space and formed a planet that then evolved into what we call earth is based on what evidence? Are you willing to place your belief in that? I'm sure you are aware of the fact that if our planet were just a few thousand miles closer to the sun, the earth would be too hot for anyone to live on, and if it were only a few thousand miles further away, it would be a ball of ice, too cold for habitation. Are you really saying that you believe such a coincidence occurred with the big bang? There is no evidence of that event whatsoever, and as for the 6,000 types of beetles, were they formed out of nothing as well? I think it takes less faith to believe that intelligent design and creation formed our planet and it's intricacies than to follow your belief system. I'm not saying that everything the Bible says is easy to take on face value and should just blindly believed. There certainly are many things I can't explain from the Bible record. All I am urging you to do is to weigh the actual evidence that is out there for anyone willing to investigate it and compare it with your current set of beliefs. I would recommend reading Josh McDowell's Evidence That Demands a Verdict. Good luck on your search for truth.
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Re: Re: Noahs Ark? For Real
Posted On: 07/03/06 09:58:13 PM Age 59, WA
Me thinks you do not have an open mind when it comes to the biblical account and this current find....lets let the arceologist and scientist evaluate it...perhaps you and me will have to re-evluate our preconcieved notions.... Roy Galutia
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Posted On: 07/05/06 04:03:45 PM Age 60, CT
Noah's ark is nonsense. There was no world wide flood. The earth is 4.5 billion, not thousands, of years old. Get some real scientists to look at the evidence, not this moron
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Posted On: 07/13/06 02:35:55 PM Age 16, WY
perhaps you should look at all the evidence supporting a worldwide flood.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Noahs Ark? For Real
Posted On: 07/09/06 08:50:48 AM Age 52, VA
You mean scientists like the Korean Dr Hwang who fabricated his cloning results, or the scientists that perpetuted the Piltdown and Nebraska man fraud and many other evolutionists that suppose and speculate with no evidence whatsoever who fabricate drawings as to how we evolved and pass them off as fact. No thanks!
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Posted On: 07/09/06 02:17:49 PM Age 46, FL
Of course there has NEVER been a Christian that fabricated ANYTHING in the history of religion. Except for: "The world is the center of the universe. The universe revolves around the earth." Taught as word by the Church. Galileo looked through his new invention - the telescope - and saw that the Church was wrong. He was put under house arrest for the remainder of his life for teaching against the Church - for teaching truth. Witch hunts. Test: Dunk them. If they sink they're innocent. Of course they die when they sink. But if they float - WITCH! Burn them! Crusades - killing in the name of God. How far against Jesus Christ was that? And many other outrageous ideas and fabrications about both the physical and spiritual world by Christians. Does that disprove Christianity? NO! We can easily pick out scientists OR Christians who were proven to be wrong about their teachings. What does picking and choosing from either lot prove? Nothing. Either party is capable of wrong thinking. (I do not believe man evolved from nothing. We were created. But your offer of evidence that scientists are wrong is invalid.)
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Posted On: 07/10/06 05:56:33 AM Age 52, VA
I never offered scientists as determiners of truth. You did! I'll stick with the Bible. (Oh by the way, it was scientists that convinced "the church" that the earth was the center of the universe. The church unfortunatley, bought the lie.)
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Im Not "Age 60, CT"
Posted On: 07/14/06 01:18:02 PM Age 46, FL
Apparantly you have me confused with the post from "Age 60, CT". I didnt offer scientists as determiners of truth. They are not - although they have disproven Christian teaching many times. Another good example of this is the many diseases that were explained away as demons. Can you imagine having a terrible infection and told it is a demon in you and its your fault because you did not pray enough. Then one day a scientist sees the truth - bacteria revealed by the new microscope. I hope you dont think modern Christianity is now above this kind of thinking. As for your comment about "the Church" buying into what the scientists of that time told them (and therefore scientists were at fault), you cant pin this on the scientists. The church accepted the information and taught it is doctrine when there was no biblical evidence to support it. And if you didnt believe what they taught you were guilty of blasphemy. Thats cruel. And by the way, why would this information need to be taught in churh anyway? One other comment, on this blog there are many people that accept that th structure that B.A.S.E. found is, indeed, the Ark of Noah. They accept it on face value. Is this because the research group is a Christian group? Either way the evidence is very shaky so far. If this find is proven conclusively not to be the Ark, who will anounce that they were wrong with the same force that they claimed it was real? If that becomes the case all will be quiet Im sure. Thanks.
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Posted On: 07/11/06 03:09:58 AM Age 26, CA
I agree with you. Thanks
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Re: Noahs Ark? For Real

Posted On: 07/02/06 08:36:46 PM

Age 62, NY

I do believe the Flood story, and the story of Noah's Ark. I would like to see the Ark found. I have known for some time that the Biblical account does not actually say that the Ark came to rest on Mt. Ararat. Rather, it says (Genesis 8:4)that the Ark came to rest "on the mountains of Ararat", meaning it could be anywhere in the region. However, I do not believe that what Bob has found is the Ark. Frankly, judging by the pictures, what he found looks like nothing more than a natural outcrop of petrified wood. Geologically, it is quite interesting, but of no relevance to the Flood. By the way, are you aware that the Jewish historian Josephus Flavius wrote that the remains of the Ark were being broken up for talismans? If he was right about that, there may be nothing left to find.
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Re: Re: Noahs Ark? For Real
Posted On: 07/06/06 04:08:27 PM Age 28, CO
yeah, it has to be a natural outcrop of trees, because we all know how well trees grow above timberline...oh, wait.
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Re: Noah?s Ark? For Real

Posted On: 07/02/06 09:12:57 AM

Age 61, MI

I know the ark existed and I believe in God's timing it will be revealed to us in a convincing way. The photos are are not convincing and neither is the description. Lets see the scientific analysis of the specimens before we conclude anything.
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Re: Noahs Ark? For Real

Posted On: 07/02/06 07:23:33 AM

Age 56, AR

Pray that you will ask God to use your intellectualism and knowledge for His purpose, and some have. I'm not an intellectual, and usually people don't listen to those who are not educated. God doesn't want us to depend on our education. Those who will refute Noah's Ark are trying desperately to prove God's inexsistance because they don't believe God's word is inerrant and infallable, and sure don't believe in His word. To me this isn't to show unbelievers that he does exist, but for believers to test their belief in him, not the boat in itself. It is a great find, but not greater than faith in God and believing Jesus didn't swoon or feign his death. No greater than Jesus' life, death and reserrection. We have a great promise of heaven because of that belief. Those who are believers on this page, remember not all who visit here are children of God. Test the words against scripture, even though they aren't the original transcripts, they are what God gave US. Brenda
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Re: Re: Noahs Ark? For Real
Posted On: 07/09/06 01:40:38 PM Age 46, HI
It's a great find if it's the ark. Otherwise, it's another piece of rock. An interesting piece, but still just a piece of rock.
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Re: Noahs Ark? For Real

Posted On: 07/02/06 01:48:46 AM

Age 59, WA

With proper research ...what ever was found will be established as fact ...one should be careful at this point not to jump to conclusions.we have only establisted that it is a large structure of petrafied wood at a high altitude.there are two other sites (mount Arat and lower arat} that need to be carefully evaluated . but it is certianly tantalizing ...those on all sides of the question need to keep thier minds open... and that means christian ,jewish ,moslems and secular communities....we all may learn something. lets hope global politics does not get in the way of good science.
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This has to be the ark

Posted On: 07/01/06 04:19:52 PM

Age 53, GA

This has to be the ark, because it looks like a boat and also because the Lord told me.
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Re: This has to be the ark
Posted On: 07/06/06 11:23:56 PM Age 46, HI
Well, there you go!
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Re: Noahs Ark? For Real

Posted On: 07/01/06 03:51:20 PM

Age 63, VA

I have followed the explorations of Bob Cornuke and of others for several years. God is sovereign, and His Word says there was a world-wide flood, that there was an ark for Noah and his family (8 humans), and who knows how many creatures, in order to escape that world-wide flood. God has given the Scientific Disciplines to the world's people to give us the ability to see His fine points. If this IS the ark, I pray the work of Bob Cornuke and so many others can be proven irrefutably. Nevertheless, God's will be done. What IS very fascinating concerning the timing of this apparent discovery, is the political status of Iran at this very moment. Considering all the political unrest in the region, I am astonished at the fact that Mr. Cornuke and his party were able to obtain Iranian permission to do this explorative foray at this particular moment! Thank you, Lord! Glorify Yourself!!!!
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Re: Noahs Ark? For Real

Posted On: 06/30/06 04:24:44 PM

Age 46, FL

This is an exciting find. I liked most of the article about the discovery however I guess this is also an opinion piece. I was hoping it would stay within the confines of reporting the facts and being as objective and scientific as possible. However, there is one paragraph in the article that disapponted me. Some outakes: "Unfortunately, I also expect that Dr. Cornuke will be venomously attacked by both Christians and non-Christians. His discovery will greatly distress evolutionists who do not want the story of Noah and a worldwide flood to be verified. And many Christians that have spent years and millions of dollars searching on Mt. Ararat in Turkey will be quick to dismiss Cornukes discovery out of jealousy (and perhaps a bit of embarrassment that they spent so much time looking in the wrong place)." The author may be correct but is this part really necessary?? It sounds rather judgemental and a arrogant. Why does the author draw a line in the sand? As for the "evolutionists", people are individuals. Not groups. There are many open-minded scientists that are not convinced either way and have not closed their minds to the possibilities. Comments such as the author's builds walls between people. Why not, instead, suggest hope that all people concerned will look at the findings objectively and see the possibilities rather than assume the worst of them. The attitude of the author just doesnt seem Christian. I think the order of the day should be to stick to the facts, leave emotions and opinions (except where an expert is involved) out of it and objectively report the progress of this project. As for the team (B.A.S.E.) I hope they can press ahead with a formal investigation of this site and its materials. A dig, if possible would be the most desired goal. Once analysis of all the data is completed, a formal and thorough presentation should be given. Then let people decide for themselves what has been found. The worst thing that can be done is to come out with guns blazing declaring the discovery of the ark. How many times has that approach been taken only to be proven wrong (not that the researchers are here) and then embarrassed? Thanks.
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Posted On: 06/30/06 10:32:51 PM Age 59, DE
As a Christian, I would hope that after thorough scientific analysis this discovery may prove to be of an age and material that could possibly be Noah's ark. The evidence can speak for itself. Short of finding Noah's name inscribed in the petrified wood with drawings of the animals, I don't see how those who don't accept the Bible as historical fact would accept the idea of an ark and world-flood in the first place. However, I agree that the negativism should have been left out of the article and it should have remained objective with just the facts.
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Posted On: 07/06/06 11:21:56 PM Age 46, HI
Why should the negativism be left out of the article? Why are some Christians so intent on keeping everything happy and fluffy. The only reason it should have been kept out was not that it was negative (because it is also probably true) but because it was speculative. Still, I don't see the harm. The Bible if packed with negative comments about God's people made by God's own prophets, so get used to it.
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Re: Noahs Ark? For Real

Posted On: 06/30/06 12:58:42 PM

Age 31, MA

The following is quoted from a response attempting to REFUTE the Noah's flood story: "There is excellent evidence that the Black Sea was formed as the result of a catastrophic flood at exactly the same time as "Noah's flood." The Bosprous strait cracked open, allowing the Mediterranean Sea to pour in, no doubt even to well up through deep cracks in huge fountains as it poored through the fault line of the Bosporous. Within a hundred days, the Black Sea went from being a much smaller fresh-water lake to the salt-water sea that it is today. And there is evidence of human civilization down around what would have been the old coastline of the original fresh-water lake, now 500 feet below sea level. The Black Sea, of course, lies right at the base of the "mountainS of Ararat." And it did this all in about a hundred days, not much more than Noah's forty nights and forty days. That, I'm afraid is the best evidence of Noah's flood ... but it was a long way from being worlwide." Now ... the understanding I have is that when God made up his mind to flood the Earth, the word in the ancient texts carries a world-wide connotation. But, when God actually gets to the point of telling his plan to Noah, the word translated into "the world" in English is a different one that denotes a more local connotation. If this is so, then the above commentary that seeks to refute the Word of God actually confirms it.
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Re: Re: Noah?s Ark? For Real
Posted On: 07/06/06 04:47:32 AM Age 46, HI
Actually, I don't seek to refute the word of God. That's not a fair statement. I seek to refute the idea of a global flood. So, we're in agreement on it not being worldwide, and thanks for the bit of info about the way the story changes, though it still leaves a lot of other problems with how the story indicates a worldwide flood. Why even build an ark for a local flood. It would be far easier to scatter the animals out of that area than to gather them from all the earth to save them from a flood that would never affect them if they had not been gathered to the area in the first place.
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