Re: Liberals Are Evil, Wrong and Nuts! (Part I)
| Posted On: 06/14/06 03:42:12 PM |
Age 30, CA |
The truth is that Freedom of Religion guaranteed that people could worship in their own ways without threat from government -- and that to support that, there would separation of church & state. This article represents a hateful face of Christianity. Remember that we are to follow Jesus' teachings, and Jesus' alone. The Old Testament was replaced by His gospel. If you keep referring to the Old Law then you might as well call yourself something other than a Christian. Look at Jesus' teachings and tell me when he would have spent his time preaching about tax cuts?! I fear that Christians have swallowed the "slate" of Republican propoganda. One has only to look at the current administration to see liars & limitless deception all wrapped in the clothes of Christianity. I suspect that Dick Cheney and Jesus would not have much to talk about.
I'm glad my local congregation isn't infected with the hatemongering of these posts.
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- Re: Re: Liberals Are Evil, Wrong and Nuts! (Part I)
| Posted On: 06/22/06 11:30:55 AM | | Age 45, NC |
Got news for you - you are absolutely WRONG!!!! Jesus did NOT come to replace the Law but to fulfill the prophets. Believe me when i tell you that the Old Testament is STILL in effect otherwise why follow the Ten Commandments? What Jesus changed was the requirement for blood sacrifices. Why was that no longer required because He fulfilled that requirement when His blood was spilled for us. He bled, died, and rose for our sins which we could NEVER atone for. Praise the Lord that He did becuase no man can have the righteousness of God withour Christ.
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- Re: Re: Liberals Are Evil, Wrong and Nuts! (Part I)
| Posted On: 06/15/06 05:31:38 PM | | Age 40, FL |
Sounds like that congregation is infected already.
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Re: Liberals Are Evil, Wrong and Nuts! (Part I)
| Posted On: 06/14/06 03:21:46 PM |
Age 58, IL |
Dear Ralph... while totally agreeing with you on liberalism - that it truly hurts the very people they say they're trying to help -I sadly disagree with you on calling them names and then judging then. You can and should judge WHAT THEY DO and hold them accountable, but judging them AS PEOPLE... that's just a little above your (and my) pay-grade. Please... let's leave that to the ONLY ONE qualified to do so - our Lord. As Christians we should all hate the sin... but love the sinner. My friend... this is not rocket science, nor does going over the top serve any good purpose.
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- Re: Re: Liberals Are Evil, Wrong and Nuts! (Part I)
| Posted On: 06/24/06 11:03:40 AM | | Age 59, AR |
"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits...." (Matt 7:15-16a) This passage continues, telling the reader to judge and determine whether a prophet is false or not...it tells the reader how to make the determination. That is what Ralph has done...he has presented the facts of observable behavior (fruit) of liberals and drawn the only reasonable conclusion. Ralph has gone further by exposing what he has found, in accordance with Ephesians 5:10-11 "Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord. And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove [them]".
Truly only God can truly judge in the punitive sense. If we Christians fail to judge those with whom we keep company, we may find ourselves among the false prophets, murderers, blasphemers and other undesirables. It is Satan who desires that we never make a judgement call...that we check our brains and conscience at the door.
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Re: Liberals Are Evil, Wrong and Nuts! (Part I)
| Posted On: 06/14/06 11:15:26 AM |
Age 46, AR |
I believe your article was right on target. And it sends shivers up my spine to think we Christians have allowed this to happen. I just finished reading the book of Joshua. I have heard people say that the nation of Israel was ruthless in combat. Yeah, and they did exactly what God told them to do with the wicked nations that they fought against. Their biggest mistake was when they wimped out and refused to take the land God had told them was theirs. We need to take our land, this land is OUR land, and our children's land. Yeah, I agree. They're evil, wrong and nuts. AND yes!! A wig by any other name is still a wig. Call it what it is.
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Re: Liberals Are Evil, Wrong and Nuts! (Part I)
| Posted On: 06/14/06 04:08:51 AM |
Age 43, KY |
Brother Baker is right on target as Ms. Coulter is. To ignore is dangerous, and sugar coat the truth, is just a PC term for lying. If any of you know,understand and believe the scriptures (Bible), then you should also know that a persons calling and salvation isn't in our hands, but YHWH's and Yeshua. Speaking the truth about someone or a group of people is not going to prevent or detour some one from coming to YHWH through Yeshua the Messiah. If you believe you, me or anyone has the power to stop someone that YWHW has called, then you can't believe the Bible, for it is written that whom so ever that YWHW delievers to Yeshua for salvation, can't be lost. Unfortunately, I see the years of Political Correctness has taken it's toll on a significant portion of those who claim to be Christian, as well as the non-Christian populous. It is sad to see those who dare speak the truth being chastized by those who claim to love truth, in order to protecto those living in lies and, yes, evil ways. How can one confess and repent of sin, if they don't know what sin is or that they are doing it?
I pray for the scales to be removed from their eyes, the wax removed from their ears, and the stone removed from their hearts, so that they might see the truth for the first time, hear the word of YHWH and it's truth and have that truth written on a heart of flesh!
"Father forgive them, for they know not what they do!"
Mark
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Re: Liberals Are Evil, Wrong and Nuts! (Part I)
| Posted On: 06/12/06 02:14:31 PM |
Age 43, GA |
I agree that as Christians we should be careful about the terms we use to describe those in our culture who oppose God and our work to restore America's Christian foundation ("Always be prepared to give an answer...but do this with gentleness and respect." 1 Peter 3:15). However, we should never shrink away from speaking the truth.
The first great commandment is to "love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength"; this means we must first honor God by obeying His Truth and operating every area of our life from this foundation. Then we can effectively obey the second great commandment, "Love others as yourself."
First we must stand on the foundation of truth. Then, and only then, can we truly love others. The "judge-not" crowd gets it wrong because they elevate "loving others" above our first great commandment and its to truth. They compromise truth in order to achieve harmony and tollerance. They will know Christians by their love, but only a love rooted in Truth and never compromised.
"Evil"..."Wrong" -- there's nothing rude or disrespectful with those terms and we have ample Scriptural authority to declare people and their actions as being evil vs good, or wrong vs right, because Christ has given us His Word as the standard by which we measure all things. "...make a right judgment," Christ commands us in John 7:24. Christians are supposed to judge fruit by the root and roots by the fruits (Luke 6:43-44).
"Nuts" could fall in the category of disrespect, although I'm assuming the author is trying to have a little fun with this. It behooves us to be careful to always take the high road in our communications, but strong words we should not fear...although we should be careful about to whom we are addressing when we use such strong words (we have Biblical precedent based upon Jesus and John the Baptist who used such harsh language like "snakes," "vipers," and "white-washed tombs," when addressing the political and religious leaders who opposed God. Paul refers in 2 Timothy 3 to those who worm into Christian circles and pollute the truth as "imposters" and "men of depraved minds.") Strong language clearly has a place in Christian communication.
I propose Christian Patriots unify on a single term to describe those who are destroying America. It is clear and concise, and although it may get a reaction, it is not rude or disrespectful language...it is simply truth: those who are changing America into a nation it was never intended to be, though we'd like to think of them as "Nuts", are simply "anti-American."
Those who favor State sanctioned same-sex unions, legalized abortion, a living Constitution, and teaching the religion of secular-humanism in government schools are changing America into something it was not established to be. They are changing America into a nation that the Founders did not establish. They are changing America's form of government into one that it was not originally. They are against America...they are "anti-American." Such people can be described as evil and wrong...and they are anti-American. It is not disrespectul to call these folks anti-American, no matter how much Hillary or Ted Kennedy may shreik when truth-tellers use such language.
We must be clear, we must be adamant, we must not wilt in the face of relentless attacks when we speak the truth.
Christ never hedged for a second... He delcared His mission, His purpose, with boldness, "I am the Way...". He left no room for doubt. He shocked the political and religious leaders of His day with His boldness and clarity. We should do no less...we should respectfully call anti-Americans excatly what they are with clarity and boldness.
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Re: Liberals Are Evil, Wrong and Nuts! (Part I)
| Posted On: 06/12/06 12:27:57 PM |
Age 54, CA |
Nonbelievers do read the articles on Worldview Network. So this is not really just a "family discussion", Ralph. But you know that.
The article states:
"My points are aimed at radical liberals who, by the way, dominate the leadership of all the major institutions in this nation."
All major institutions? I would ask, do liberals control the Senate, the House, the White House? Do they control the Oil industry? Do they control the armed forces?
Ralph, it seems to me that the people you really have a beef with are the ones who wrote our Constitution.
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- Re: Re: Liberals Are Evil, Wrong and Nuts! (Part I)
| Posted On: 06/14/06 03:51:22 AM | | Age 43, KY |
And you sir, have no understanding of the people who wrote the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights, else you wouldn't make such foolish statements. Considering that 98% of the population, including the founding fathers were Christian, during the time of the writing of the Constitution, and the fact that almost all Universities and schools were ran by clergy or devoute Christians, you sir, are the one who are at odds with the Constitutions, not Ralph. But it is a typical liberal ploy to try and mis-represent the Constitution and Bill of Rights... Oh and just in case you are wondering, it is freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. And I hate to break it to you, but those founding fathers who fought for that 1st Amendment to be in there, would have probably carried the wood for the Salem witch trials... meaning that Islam, Wiccan, Satanism, Buddism, etc. were not the religion(s) our founding fathers of this country were talking about, as these "religions" were considered pagan in those days, and wouldn't have been tolerated in pre or post Revolutionary War America.
Just a little history lesson for those who wish to re-write history to suit their own needs and beliefs.
God have mercy on those who reject Him!
Mark
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Re: Liberals Are Evil, Wrong and Nuts! (Part I)
| Posted On: 06/12/06 10:16:52 AM |
Age 50, MO |
The general message is right on key: the current day liberal agenda is evil, and carried out by predominantly openly God-hating people. The kicker here is that too many Christians are propping up the same agenda by advancing only slightly less evil alternatives (losing as slowly as possible), while missing foundational biblical truths. A few examples:
Public(welfare)schools are outside the jurisdiction of the state, and unbiblical. Thus, Christians should be disabused of any notion of reforming them. To aid them or, heaven forbid, put your children in them is violation of the 1st commmandment, as well as the 8th (plundering your neighbor for funding). And please consider the fact that they advance violations of all the other commandments as well. Christians wouldn't dream of sending their kids to Mormon or Islamic schools, so why the state schools? Hasn't their record been clear for generations, as well as their prime motive? Nor would they go door to door robbing their neighbor; so why hire (vote in) others to do it for you? Moreover, school prayer is a moot point, a diversion from the main issue; unless it is a prayer to the Triune God it is advancing paganism; sort of like obsessing over partial-birth abortion when there are plenary ways to murder the unborn.
Indeed theft pervades the Christian plains hurting especially the elderly, fixed income, and orphaned individuals. This is done very inocuously through inflation (increase in the $ supply), which is perpetrated primarily thru bank loans (money creation via the sham fractional reserve system)and government borrowing. Displeased with what God has provided, the vast majority of Christians go to the banks beseeching them to create $ out of thin air to satisfy their desires. The banks are arguabley the primary idol competing with the Triune God of the universe. The state schools are the grooming tools.
Essentially, Christians are lacking in biblical answers to today's cultural maladies. We must begin there (IICor 10:4-5) or continue to lose it all.
Curt Frazier, MD
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- Re: Re: Liberals Are Evil, Wrong and Nuts! (Part I)
| Posted On: 06/22/06 11:51:55 AM | | Age 45, NC |
most Christians send their kids to state run schools because their taxes pay for that anyway and they do NOT get tax breaks for sending their kids to a private Christian school. sadly most Christians do NOT understand the ramifications of voting for those who are NOT in line with Scripture. it's the same as sinning - do not be conformed by the world.
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Re: Liberals Are Evil, Wrong and Nuts! (Part I)
| Posted On: 06/11/06 10:01:08 AM |
Age 39, TX |
I hope that part 2 of this article will be about reaching Liberals for Christ, not tearing them down with names and labels. Hopefully, no unbelieving liberals will read this article. This article and Ann Coulter are right in their assessment, but does this kind of mean talk drive them to the Gospel? I would say that in most cases it drives them away.
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- Re: Re: Liberals Are Evil, Wrong and Nuts! (Part I)
| Posted On: 06/22/06 11:59:27 AM | | Age 45, NC |
and Jesus told all whom He forgave and healed to SIN NO MORE. sounds kind of mean. gee and to think He drove out the moneychangers from the temple WITH A WHIP HE CRAFTED HIMSELF. wow that's pretty mean. and then He was tortured, crucified and died FOR OUR SINS. really really mean of Him wasn't it? thankfully the revelation the Jesus IS the risen Son of God who died for our sins redeems us sorry sinners from our rightly deserved place in the fires of hell.
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- Re: Re: Liberals Are Evil, Wrong and Nuts! (Part I)
| Posted On: 06/11/06 04:39:35 PM | | Age 58, GA |
Contrary to what some may think of my approach, I don't hate liberals. I do hate what they do. I do hate the fact that because of their worldview we are losing our freedoms, killing our heritage and our children especially through abortions, and by not confronting them we are allowing them to influence the masses with their poison. The truth is it is not their fault. It is our fault, Christian's fault, for allowing it. You, I'm afraid, are taking the same approach as the liberals, protecting the perpetrators. Scripture tells very clearly not to participate in their deeds of darkness. Eph. 5:11 says, "Do not participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but instead even expose them." On the other hand I agree with you totally. The Gospel is the power of God unto salvation. We should share it whenever we can. My article is written to Christians to try and help them see who the real enemy is. Ann Coulter goes far far further than I do. Prophets are not welcomed often even among their own. Thanks for taking time to read my article and for responding. In Christ, we are brothers and sisters. This is merely a family discussion here.
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Re: Liberals Are Evil, Wrong and Nuts! (Part I)
| Posted On: 06/10/06 06:16:50 PM |
Age 18, NY |
Ok, while I agree that most of they do is not right for the country, and not right Biblically, headlining your article as "Liberals are Evil, Wrong and Nuts" makes you as bad as they are.
By headlining your article that, and then spending the entire article detailing that they are evil, and that they are wrong, you prove their point for they are convinced that Christians are weak, and and old fashioned, and a threat to progress.
Why is that? Because they see a lot of Christians spending their time crusading against music, pokemon, harry potter, computer games, tv, movies, and more.
Yes, there are bad things out there, but guess what? They are the EFFECTS of living in a SINFUL world. Sinful people do sinful things. They CANNOT understand why we say they can't do them, and then conclude that Christians are old-fashioned.
When we chase after things like the ones I mentioned above, we are trying to fix the EFFECTS, without dealing with the actual PROBLEM. The PROBLEM is that they don't know Christ, so we need to lead them to Christ, and then the EFFECTS of the PROBLEM will be fixed. We as Christians should be BEING Christians, LIVING for Christ, and making a DIFFERENCE in our community, instead of chasing after things like that.
If each of us led two people to Christ, and then spent a year teaching them, and then have them go out and do the same to two more, within 50 years, much of the world would hear the Gospel.
In conclusion, I am not saying we shouldn't worry about the government, indeed, that should be important, and yes, the liberals
do need someone to show how their polices are messing up the country, but there are so many better ways to do so, not crying "EVIL" and "WICKED".
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- Re: Re: Liberals Are Evil, Wrong and Nuts! (Part I)
| Posted On: 06/22/06 12:03:29 PM | | Age 45, NC |
Do not be conformed but be TRANSFORMED. yep sorry but if Jesus can do it then He is requiring it of us. Do i sin? yes. do i sin like i did before i was REBORN OF CHRIST? not even close. unfortunately, most Christians don't understand that they are to be IN the world but be APART from the ways of the world.
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