Gov't interest in Marriage is Procreation
| Posted On: 08/14/09 06:40:59 PM |
Age 44, IL |
I agree that marriage is a civil and religious institution.
I believe that in the debate over the proper CIVIL definition and role of marriage, we must focus on the procreation aspect. I have blogged about this at
http://truthis.blogtownhall.com/2009/05/17/the_marriage_debate.thtml
The government's interest, if not religiously motivated (which under today's climate get's no traction in the statehouses) must be based on the interest in procreation. Marriage has always been a relationship that is procreative by design, even though particular individuals may be disabled or may interfere with the natural design and thus be fruitless. The government has an interest in more people being born, thus has reason to provide incentives (tax preferences, etc) to married couples.
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Did I miss something
| Posted On: 07/02/09 01:48:29 AM |
Age 53, WV |
I do agree with the writer on all his points but I must point too Paul's writings to justify why I will not fight nor argue on this matter. For in Romans we learn that this is pre-ordained by God; he has sent to them a spirit too make them happy within their sins. We are to judge them but among ourselves only. Those who are Christian are to live as much as possible in harmony with the world. Who am I to argue with the most High? Should I stand and say Lord your writing is wrong I do not agree? We are to only judge fellow professing Christians and leave everyone else alone , we are to live as holy lives as possible; we are too be shining lights of his glory for all to see. And here we find another difficulty how many of you have given true aid to your fellow church members? Are there any who are hungry? Any in need of money? Or do you send that which could help your brethren to a fund which gives aid to those not of the flock? Pearls cast to swine.... do you know anyone who is in need? did you help? Remember Jesus said to take the log out of your own eye before you judge others. I count this all as another marker to the last days of evil upon the earth and the glory of his coming.
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....swallowing camels
| Posted On: 06/19/09 04:16:08 PM |
Age 56, NY |
I am radically passionate about marriage being between a man and a woman and opposed to gay marriage (an oxymoron at best).
However, a real problem with this issue is, the church as a whole and christian people in general weren't concerned about the 30-40 progression of cultural immorality until it attacked us personally and we feel it's effects. We must stop asking God to "bless the status quo" and be ultimately concerned for the people who are enslaved in sexual sin (one being homosexuality) and the eternal state of their souls. Seek God for repentance in a backslidden church and a moral revival that will set millions free! Only then will be begin to win this cultural battle.
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Its not just the marriage issue
| Posted On: 06/19/09 01:27:30 PM |
Age 48, NM |
The countrys lack of morals in all areas of life is really the issue. Marriage is only the lastest instution to fall. We are progressing from a republic to a demcoratic from of goverment to a oligargh (spelling ,sorry about it). We may become solialist, fasists, commies who knows. It is to late and we deserve what we get. Find comfort in knowing God is at work even though we will all suffer. I am not innconent either.
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The Truth about Gay Marriages
| Posted On: 06/19/09 03:11:00 AM |
Age 43, TX |
Why don't these politicians look at the average lifespan age and the stats on lifelong monomogamy among those in the lifestyle. Have these guys wimped out or are they wanting them to die early? This position is how Christians can be for righteous marriages and the life interest of those who oppose.
In His Grace,
Gary
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Let Homosexuals Marry and let's repeal DOMA
| Posted On: 06/18/09 12:17:32 PM |
Age 59, VA |
I have 2 friends who live in New York City who are homosexual men. After living with one another for more than 30 years they finally got married in Canada. I am happy for them. Their emotional bond is strong and their commitment to one another is good for them and good for society. This is true even if one does not approve of the sexual acts they may perform.
I rejoice in the fact that their relationship has finally been recognized by the laws of Canada. Unfortunately, their relationship is NOT recognized by our federal government given the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA). The DOMA prevents my friends from filing a joint federal income tax return (they pay more in taxes because they have to file 2 separate returns). Also, because of the DOMA, if one of them dies, the other cannot collect social security benefits as a survivor. Also, for purposes of the federal pension law (ERISA), the two are not considered married and therefore spouse 2 cannot collect pension benefits as spouse 1's beneficiary. The DOMA is offensive and discriminatory legislation that should be repealed as soon as possible. I pray that the repeal succeeds.
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- Would they even want "gay marriage" if there were no tax or SS benefits?
| Posted On: 06/24/09 09:42:09 AM | | Age 36, TX |
I highly doubt most "gays" actually want to get "married", for most of them their "lifestyle" is non-monogomous (obviously with a few rare exceptions), but even then, what if there were no social security program or income tax system to begin with? All these socialist programs are also the direct cause of our problem with hords of illegal aliens. There is a huge incentive for non-productive type people to leech off the system. If government would simply get their ugly nose out of our private affairs, including getting rid of ALL socialist programs, there wouldn't be such a fuss over gay marriage. You can't legislate morality, but you can certainly remove the incentive for a lot of immoral behaviour. The early colonists in America found this out the hard way when their communist lifestyle led to starvation and half the population dying that first winter.
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- religous or civil
| Posted On: 06/18/09 08:00:36 PM | | Age 63, DE |
Are you really serious about the comments you just made? We really are living in the time when men call evil good and good evil. I think you should check your thinking with what the Bible...God's word says about the issue of marriage. Do you know more than God?
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- SOME SERIAL MURDERERS ACTED LIKE NICE PEOPLE
| Posted On: 06/18/09 02:29:06 PM | | Age 65, OH |
Many people who claim to be Christians are not loyal to one another. Does that make The Lord Jesus Christ any less Lord of all that exists. It is a poor witness to the world but has NO bearing on what is true and what is false. The mafia are very loyal to each other, even to the point of murdering anyone who opposes a member of their group. But that so called loyalty does not make the mafia a good organization for any nation. God who is the Author of all truth has said that homosexuality is an abomination (or filthy). The fact that some homosexuals seem faithful to one another has no bearing on homosexuality being good or evil. I read of some bank robbers who were merciful and really nice people other than robbing banks; but they were still bank robbers and a curse to the nation they lived in. Think what any nation would be like, if all the people were thieves. If all the people on this earth were homosexual, man would cease to exist in a very few years. Any nation that has accepted homosexuality as normal has fallen. If our nation allows homosexual marriage or unions it will fall. - Lou Newton
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Religous or civil
| Posted On: 06/18/09 11:36:59 AM |
Age 56, MO |
Well put! It really should not be surprising but angering yes! Back in the mid eighties one of the largest 'retirement org. club' wrote in their monthly magazine that in order to remove Christianity (rid society of the only true God) was by pulling the nails out slowly. When I read that I was in a backslid state, But that opened my eye's to what was actually going on! It is satans way to move oh so slowly by widening the gray areas so he can divide and conquer! I'm not sure who said that we will be seeing the "gray" area between good and evil start to narrow sharply. It is so true, now these people are coming out of the wall leaning way south! Anyone in their right mind can see that there is design in all of Gods creation, so yes marriage is from the beginning from God, even if two people (man and woman) are secular! Just as big and fat humpty dumpty this nation is having a great fall. When that fall takes place? Only God knows!
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