LOVE
| Posted On: 12/09/08 10:37:31 AM |
Age 59, NV |
Love is not the issue here it go's contrary to G-d word the movie is wrong no matter how much love there is.
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Focus on the family
| Posted On: 12/09/08 10:14:37 AM |
Age 67, WA |
Over the years the church has fallen into the apostasy that has to come. skipping over G-d's warnings to hate the world and love Him only...or love the world and hate Him. The world loves it's own. G-d hates paganism and the traditons of men. He said that..Most of the churches are all signed up under the Catholic cult who thinks G-d did not pay it ALL! We know we are in the last days just before the rapture. we are being tried. some may have to be tried in the tribulation. loose salvation, no, be here , yes..He tells us they (world) hated Him and they will hate us. I see the TV preachers now preach we are little gods with a little "g". Looks like many have been biten with the Rick Warren bug. he says he sits on the fence so neither side can attack him. G-d warns that He is going to melt down this old world and all men made. so why are they all forgetting HIS WORD and heading to Rome with the one world religion. they even helped put a Muslim in our White house..No one wanted to believe Hitler was Satanic either. Too late they found out. Anyone who doesn't see the film on CNN of Scream bloody murder and not see it on it's way to the US and they are helping it along. I wonder how many jobs are outsourced, and 25,000 ilegals, bring in drugs and disease and taking our jobs, and G-d warns us to follow the laws of the land. So much lawlessness is being done in the name of unity and love!!!Does anyone remember Paul's warnings of the "other Jesus"? their dream of replaceing Israel has also replaced, or added to or taken away from HIS Word. Cursed is he who does this..G-d says that too. The world is in the church...luke warm and deny the power. It is all about them, instead of G-d..Look at our generation!!! They know better and many too will be destroyed from lack of knowledge. When they stand before the KING. HE will say,,depart from me , you of lawlessness..I never knew you...No matter how much good or evil they did..they are lawless. They call HIS loving instruction the law..it is the commands not lets make a deal...they can't say they were not warned. and the preachers who in Hebrew are salesmen..will get double punishment. It will be a terribe day and remember G-d told us NO ONE can sit on the fence..NO ONE..I pray that people just start reading HIS WORD, and remember what HE SAYS..before it is too late..HE is coming.. the two thousand yrs are up...
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- Vampires movie
| Posted On: 12/09/08 11:42:59 AM | | Age 59, TN |
I am concerned that Focus on the Family would recommend this vampire movie for the children to see. The Harry Potter series and all the other evil calling the children to do ungodly things has so concerned me. Focus on the Family does not need to recommend this type of film that calls one to be drawn into the evil of the devil.
Thank you.
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Thanks for the eye-opener!
| Posted On: 12/09/08 10:08:53 AM |
Age 50, MN |
the problem is once again, Christian children are being seduced, told that its not that bad by their Christian friends. Ignorance is abound...we have to constantly guard, research and guide even as they grow! we should all pray fo FOTF!
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The Episcopal Church, EHarmony, Focus. Etc.
| Posted On: 12/09/08 09:43:52 AM |
Age 47, FL |
There is a wide area of "turf" where the true believer and the world can convene without blurring the lines, so to speak. We can go to a Nascar race, a football game, the beach, fishing, designing buildings as an architect, etc. etc.
It is too bad that these man made organizations grow to a certain size and then the real financial needs pressure the human leadership to blur those lines in order to not offend and thereby risk funding.
James 4:4 "...know ye not that friendship with the world is enmity with God? whoever therefore will be a friend of the world is an enemy of God."
It really is that simple. When a large Christian based institution abandons the most basic orthodoxy of the Faith, there is nothing to do but to abandon them.
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Cowardice
| Posted On: 12/09/08 07:53:39 AM |
Age 51, TN |
Personally I believe FOTF has kowtowed and surrendered Christian values to try and maintain their monetary base. This movie is unfit for Christians to watch and it is clear FOTF is compromising principle.
A person trying to live for Christ would never recommend this trash. To promote it as a teacher of values is absurd.
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Mormon Influence
| Posted On: 12/09/08 07:45:04 AM |
Age 49, TX |
I'm more concerned about the good PR Mormonism is getting than I am the vampire-aspect of this series.
The lovely author, a Mormon Mom, also seems quite attracted to the aspect of becoming a god - immortal and still procreating - much like a vampire: a hallmark of LDS theology.
Further, there is no greater mockery of the blood of Christ than the vampire mythos.
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Tell the whole truth, now
| Posted On: 12/09/08 07:10:52 AM |
Age 38, GA |
I think you are mischaracterizing FOTF for your own agenda. You did not discuss their negative comments about the movie. They point out positive themes as well as negative themes. Their purpose with the movie reviews is to provide information, not to make explicit recommendations. They provide enough facts about this particular movie for most discerning believers to not only avoid the movie, but to inform others who may not be as discerning. Imagine a water cooler conversation about the movie. It might be just as helpful to know how others might positively view the movie as the obvious negative qualities.
For the record, I am not a huge fan of FOTF, but I think in this case, you are taking some of their comments out of context. Sometimes when alls you looking for is snakes, snakes is all you's find.
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Romans 14:2-4
| Posted On: 12/09/08 06:54:38 AM |
Age 60, TX |
I must respectfully disagree with you that certain movies are a Romans 14:2-4 issue. If those movies contain sexual immorality, for instance, then your Christian friends have no business seeing them for oh so many reasons, the main one being we are told not to even touch the garment stained with sin. The question becomes WHY they want to watch immorality. There are just too many Christians today who seemingly have a disconnect in this area, and it does cause one to question the depth of their commitment to Christ. This is especially baffling in the case of people who, as you relate, otherwise listen to Sproul and MacArthur. Those men speak often of God's holiness and how we are called to holiness ourselves. There is nothing holy about watching an immoral movie. Christians would do well to rid their lives of Hollywood anyway, as it is the source of the filth that has corrupted our culture.
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- Christians must refrain?
| Posted On: 12/09/08 12:39:21 PM | | Age 42, TX |
So, if a movie has sexual immorality then a Christian MUST refuse to see it? What about violence? What about disrespect of authority? What about pride? Is is ok for a Christian to watch any non-Christian movie?
What if it's a "Christian" movie but I think it shows disrespect towards parents?
Can I say that people who see it aren't Christians? She seems a little quick at the end to declare people as non-Christians. In Corinthians Paul talks about some pretty ugly sins going on in the church. People acting hateful and selfish (among other things). In discussion of communion he says that some have even died from this. But he doesn't say that makes them non-believers.
I hear her concern about people finding "Christian" values in this movie (books). I don't see that reading or watching these makes them unbelievers.
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- RE
| Posted On: 02/16/09 03:27:57 PM | | Age 29, MD |
What is the overall point of the movie? Is it to glorify the sin and sinner? Is it making light of those offenses and belittleing those who oppose them? There is a difference between a movie that is "non-Christian" and one that is promoting lifestyles and practices that are blatantly unbiblical. Obviously I agree with the poster to whom you are responding. Regardless of any "positive" elements (which are outweighed by the blatant sinful themes), the film in discussion here is rich in occultism, and therefore should not be watched by one who professes to be a Christian.
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- Should Christians watch sexually immoral movies?
| Posted On: 12/10/08 08:23:01 AM | | Age 60, TX |
If you are replying to me, I was not addressing the issue of whether the people are or are not Christians to begin with. I was disagreeing that sexual immorality in movies is a Romans 14:2-4 issue.
Addressing your criticism, there is a huge difference between nude sex scenes in movies on one hand and a character afflicted with the sin of greed and pride on the other. What is it you are trying to defend? Do you think it is a good thing for Christians to pay good money to go see movies with sexual immorality? If so, why? How are Christians benefited by that? Are they spiritually edified by it? Does it strengthen their walk with Christ to watch immoral sex scenes in a movie? Please explain how it is good for a Christian to watch such filth. And if you say it does not spiritually harm them, I would greatly disagree with that. Sure it does. Nothing is spiritually neutral. It's discouraging that so many Christians do not understand this concept. Would Christ or the Apostle Paul enjoy watching a movie that contained sexual immorality? Are movies so important that we are willing to watch the sexual immorality in them? Why are movies so important?
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- Watch or don't watch movies
| Posted On: 12/19/08 07:20:00 PM | | Age 42, TX |
I was addressing two things. First the point that we shouldn't watch movies with sexual immorality. There's plenty of that in the Bible and some of it is explicit (Ezekiel 16:25, Gen 34)... so does that mean I shouldn't read my Bible? I think the point is more how is it handled (as in the case of scripture). The second part of that point is that Christians typically freak out over the sexual stuff but don't have any problems with violence, greed, and a host of other things that we should be concerned about in movies. My second point was that author of the article said that if you read and liked the books that you weren't a Christian and I think that also is unscriptural - hence my reference to I Corinthians.
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Examine the Evidence
| Posted On: 12/09/08 06:30:40 AM |
Age 53, PA |
Yes, Ingrid's asessment is a bit misleading but she always gets to the point. By reading both reviews, I have discovered that F.O.T.F. doesn't exactly endorse the movie, but by giving it any sort of positive ink IS an endorsement. Looking for a "christian" message in a vampire movie is an oxymoron! However gradual, this statement is but one example proving to me FOTF has truly lost their Spiritual moorings.
"So within the context of a monster mash such as this, we can see a reflection of the Christian calling to put away the old man of sin and embrace the new one—a path that while straight and narrow, is certainly more difficult to walk."
WHAT?!!! My understanding of the REFLECTION of the Christian calling is... CHRIST. Not some hot looking vampire that is trying to be a better person er demon. We should not judge the salavation of other "Christians" but we must warn our fellow brothers and sisters to examine their lives to be sure they are IN the Faith which is a part of the calling of the "new man". Personally, I don't understand how anyone posessing the Spirit of Christ can sit there and watch this abomination let alone compare His teachings with it. "For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common"? Let us pray and speak the truth in love to all those who have been deceived by the enemy... For him that has ears, let him hear! All by His Grace!
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Can christians not enjoy fiction?
| Posted On: 12/09/08 06:28:22 AM |
Age 36, NC |
I am just so confused. As Christians can we not enjoy fiction? We know it is not real or true. This just confuses me when I know what I believe but get bashed for entertainment that is not hurting me or anyone else.
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