I know i am wasting my time... BUT
| Posted On: 09/26/08 04:57:08 PM |
Age 28, SC |
At what point did he condone the use "S" word (LOL)from the pulpit? You guys miss the point. Can you find something more silly to get worked up about? So now Paul Tripp is an evil man too? Should we put him on the same level as our emergent friends? I am not sure I would even say that what was done was intended for shock value... I think Dr. Tripp was simply making a very good point that is based in biblical theology. I don't know what is a bigger waste of time.., the article, my reading it, or my response...
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"Cursing" from the pulpit?
| Posted On: 09/25/08 07:40:41 PM |
Age 55, SC |
When I sat visiting a church body the pastor spoke to his congregation: "I can smell a Calvinist a mile away!" He was not referring to physical smell(perhaps a barnyard smell?) ~ the intent of his heart was clear, his distain for those holding a Calvinist position. Somehow in that setting "Calvinist" took on its own curse. The statement was offensive and not edifying though it was not a cultural curse word. But one wonders if "Calvinist" takes on a Christianeeze version of cursing depending upon the setting. How is it such unedifying comments (words) flow freely from a pulpit yet culturally offensive adjectives would threatened a pastor's future ministry? Tripp makes a valid point.
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The S word
| Posted On: 09/19/08 05:38:30 PM |
Age 48, AUSTRALIA |
I have just come back from attending a conference where one of the main speakers in telling us a story refered to a man that he was counselling as an 'idiot'. He used that word several times in relaying the story to us. I feel for that Pastor as Jesus says you are in danger of hell fire..
I am disappointed with the feedback in favor of Paul Tripp..
Nothing has changed..as in the times of Judges everyone is going around doing what is right in 'their' own eyes..
God says that by our words we will be either condemned or aquitted!
During the conference where there were two key speakers who travel the world talked about their 'sins' and the assembly roared with laughter...shame on us...when we laugh at our sins. God have mercy upon us..For judgment begins with the House of God...
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- Did you watch THIS video?
| Posted On: 09/21/08 07:23:42 PM | | Age 38, MN |
I agree with you about not calling someone an idiot (especially someone you have counseled), and I agree with you about not making light of past sins. However, I don't see how any of this relates to the Paul Tripp video. Did you watch it?
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judging heart intentions
| Posted On: 09/19/08 01:17:52 PM |
Age 38, CA |
The fact that you are judging Paul so harshly for making a point about the heart intentions when speeking concerns me a lot. You may want to take some time and pray about your heart intentions while you were writing your words. Paul makes a good point and I hope that most christians aren't too legalistic to see it.
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Did the author even watch the video?
| Posted On: 09/19/08 05:50:42 AM |
Age 38, MN |
I am very conservative and it's obvious to me you missed the whole point. Mr. Tripp was not trying to be cutting edge, culturally relevant, and radical. The video is not one of those emergent examples of foul language to shock or get attention or be relevant. He very clearly and sensitively explained his point. His point was not that it is ok to use that language. His point was what Mr. Tripp is great at teaching, it is about the heart. His kids even got it. That is what is so profound. He absolutely did not do what you asserted, "dance around what "'wholesome speech' might mean to them so they can wrest the Word to accommodate their own guttural proclivities and justify the use of the "s" word in ministry". He did not even justify the use of the word in ministry. Did you you read the disclaimer before the video. I don't think you understand. I am proud of Piper for doing this. Piper gets it, you don't. In fact all of your articles for me now are tainted and untrustworthy. CWN please look at this author. Steve Camp please confess that you missed it and recant.
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TSK tsk
| Posted On: 09/18/08 07:01:47 PM |
Age 31, CANADA |
Sometimes logs get in the way of our speck removal. I'm quite sure we've all done it, but doing it and repenting of it are two different things.
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GIVE ME A BREAK...
| Posted On: 09/18/08 12:38:53 PM |
Age 35, CA |
Give me a break...did we miss the whole point of what Tripp was saying? I am an ultra conservative homeschool mom and I was not offended one bit. This conference is about the power of words because as Christians we use words that are "Christianese" and we don't take the time to think about what is being said or what we are saying. I am sorry but I once respected this site and now I am beginning to see it as trouble making! I like what Tripp shared and later I will be showing it to my kids as I think he makes a great point, which is a matter of the heart. It's not about do this or do that, say this or say that, but does it edify and bring glory to God and what teen can argue with that?! It's called teaching others to think instead of just obeying without taking into consideration why we behave the way we do. When one applies this way of living it will bring more glory to God.
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offensive language?
| Posted On: 09/18/08 10:05:55 AM |
Age 54, IA |
I think you misssed the point of Paul Tripp's message. I can think of far worse language he could have used that would have truely been offensive.
I'm a farm boy and grew up using the s word in reference manure. That word and some other words like bitch (a female dog) or ass (a donkey) do have legitimate uses. If you look in KJV ass is used to refer to a donkey. you might also find a few other words that offend modern day listeners.
Paul's point was that miss use of words can be very offensive. Words have meaning but that meaning can change by how you say them.
by the way I don't use sh-- in church and I hope none of it is on my shoes when I'm off the farm.
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Rough but not sinful in context
| Posted On: 09/18/08 07:53:03 AM |
Age 47, KS |
I am a very conservative Christian believer and it was not pleasant to me to listen to the two "words" in this clip. Still, the words do not seem to be used for shock value. He names the words instead of using substitutes, probably in the same way that a doctor clinically names certain "unmentionable" body parts instead of using euphemisms.
The point he makes is Biblical to the heart, very much so.
i can't in this case find fault with him.
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