Whats Makes Us Think Abortions Will Be Outlawed?
| Posted On: 09/12/08 12:56:22 PM |
Age 59, IA |
The Bush Administration and Republicans in
the Senate and House have had 8 years to do
something about legalized abortions. Why
should I believe that more years of Republican leadership will make a difference?
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- SAVING SOME IS BETTER THAN NONE
| Posted On: 09/15/08 11:27:58 AM | | Age 64, OH |
Yes abortions are still not outlawed. But one could argue that is partially the fault of the pro life movement. Some would say that they could have passed a law that outlawed all most abortions after the 1st trimester. But the pro life people refused to settle for this. From the standpoint of the baby, I feel sure that the ones who were saved would have been in favor of them being saved. Saving some is better than none. Lou
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Biblically Disqualified
| Posted On: 09/11/08 05:03:44 PM |
Age 37, MI |
No matter what her political qualifications may be, she is Biblically disqualified to hold this position simply because she is a woman. Anyone who says otherwise is no believer in Biblical inerrancy and God's design for the family. Her children have already been victims of her career and will continue to be made to suffer, if this pagan ticket is elected.
No matter who wins, God is still in control. Don't hold your nose and vote. Instead, follow the Biblical guidelines for leadership and cast a vote for someone who meets those standards instead of a terrible compromise for the sake of pragmatism.
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Wow, Janet, you surprise me...
| Posted On: 09/11/08 11:01:08 AM |
Age 48, KS |
I am not surprised by men mis-commentating on what it is like for a women to hold office and be family-centered and take care of a special needs child at the same time. How in the world could they possibly know what that is like? They are men...they will never go through the hormonal changes of pregnancy or menopause. They will never have the mood swings associated with those things. Their bodies and their minds are built to be less emotional, so surely this is a choice of pure logic right?
But Janet? To hear a Christian women advocating these things...have we lost our collective wits?
Janet, surely you as a women are not completely out of touch with how women's bodies are built, the differences between them and men and how that can and DOES affect how women behave in any setting?
I know scores of Christian woman, some as young as 30, who are hitting the exhaustion wall, trying to go through natural changes of life for a women's body, after stressing themselves being men AND women all these years (careers, financial pressure, kids, husbands).
They are physically being annihilated by this feministic view, now even more damaging as it comes from Christian sources and a women, to boot! Have you noticed how sterlization and birth defects are on a huge upswing? What do you think is causing this? It is partially from women getting completely exhausted and stressed out trying to "do it all"!
Good gravy, give us a break!
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- Perfect world glasses
| Posted On: 09/12/08 05:50:14 AM | | Age 48, MO |
You sound like the type of woman who argues pro abortion. After all, how can a man tell a woman what to do with HER body? They don't know what its like to get fat, stretch, crave pickles, and then try to get in shape again for the next fella. Do you think you are judging Sarah's right to run for VP on Scripture or your rightousness? Do you have debt? Paul in Romans says to be indebted to know one except to love. Do you criticise all the other Christian women that work outside the home? Do you actually THINK Sarah will be a stay at home mom if she can't be VP? Telling her how to run her life is hypocritical at best because with perfect world glasses, I agree that women should stay at home, we wouldn't have institutionalized schools, churches, or wimpy men. But, the reality IS that Sarah has been in politics for many years and it works for them. John
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Palin is a good choice but...
| Posted On: 09/11/08 06:53:25 AM |
Age 52, NC |
I agree that Palin is a great choice that was made to pacify conservatives. I would probably vote for her if she were at the top of the ticket, but unless something happens to McCain, she will never have enough power to make a difference. McCain would still be in charge, and he is still the same old conniving liar. I'll vote third party or write-in.
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Palin and Ebay
| Posted On: 09/11/08 05:02:46 AM |
Age 61, IL |
I am very much in favor of Sarah Palin being nominated for Vice President. I would even vote for her for President, and hopefully, someday I will be able to.
But I question if it is accurate (and wise) to say that she "auctioned" the jet on Ebay.
I have read that although she put the jet on Ebay, it did not sell and was sold later at a lower price.
If this is true then the Liberal headhunters can use this against her if we don't represent the facts accurately. Do you know for certain if the jet was sold on Ebay or not?
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Bait And Switch
| Posted On: 09/10/08 03:47:48 PM |
Age 56, NEW ZEALAND |
As a New Zealander watching from a distance as this thing plays out, I am truly amazed at the gullibility of US voters. McCain is a rank moral liberal, and prior to Palin's appearance, conservatives had no candidate to vote for in November. Therefore, the Democrats had a clear run and McCain was basically toast. So what does anyone in their right mind think that Sarah Palin signifies? That McCain has been born again? This is without doubt one of the most cynical things I have ever seen in politics. The idea of Americans rushing to vote for McCain under the illusion that they are voting for Palin's personal qualities it is beyond belief. The morning after the election, the bankrupting of America will continue as usual, the feminizing of America will continue, the abortions will continue, the Mexican invasion will continue, etc, etc, because that is what John McCain stands for. As Janet says, "McCain hit it out of the park" Yes, it is a home run any self-serving politician would be proud of.
- Tumbleweed
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- Spoken like a person who has some sense
| Posted On: 09/11/08 10:14:23 AM | | Age 62, MO |
You are very correct in your assertions. I am sorry to say that such is the mentality of the average Evangelical American. George Cancilla
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Palin good and bad
| Posted On: 09/10/08 12:35:22 PM |
Age 46, IL |
Janet,
while I agree that Mrs. Palin has several conservative qualities I agree with; pro-life, pro-gun, pro-traditional marriage, pro drilling,I am concerned as a homeschool father her example to my daughters and to the woman of America. Mrs. Palin is a feminist. She praises the feminist of the past, she talks the feminist talk, she has abandoned her home, her children, for the State, she is submitting to someone or something other than her husband. It's surprising there is so much debate among conservative Christians as to the role of woman. From Genesis one, we clearly read that woman was made as a "suitable helper" for the man, Genesis two and three give us even more clarity on this issue. His headship is reaffirmed by Jesus in Matthew 19 and Mark 10, by Paul in 1 Corinthians 11: 3 & 7-9, 14:33-35 ,Ephesians 5:22 - 6:4, Col 3:18-19, 1 Tim 2:11-15, 3:11, 5:4-5, 14-16, Titus 2:3-5. My question is this, if our daughters follow Mrs. Palin, who will be at home? The State will, with our woman working, there will be no homeschoolers, with pre-k starting as early as three, the state will be indoctinating our children with atheistic, evolutionary theology. I'm concerned she is not as "pro-family" as many Christians believe and her example to the next generation will lead more young woman to abandon the home thinking they can have it all. Which they cannot.
Kert
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- THOSE CHRISTIANS WHO AREN'T EXCITED ABOUT PALIN
| Posted On: 09/11/08 02:50:05 PM | | Age 56, AZ |
Okay, for all the naysayers and dooms dayers that 'aren't excited' about Palin. . .vote then for Barak Hussein Obama a closet Muslim. How stupid can you be? And another thing, you who call yourselves Christians. . who needs your kind of faith??
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- YOU CALL YOURSELF CHRISTIAN?
| Posted On: 09/14/08 12:32:44 PM | | Age 39, FL |
How stupid can YOU be? McCain is a compromiser and liberal! He is a member of the Council of Foreign Relations, an organization that is against American sovereignity. A bonafide Bible believing Christian would not be voting for EITHER ticket if they are honest with themselves and have a desire to be righteous. All of the sudden Sarah Palin comes into the picture, and McCain is transformed into a valuable candidate? SHEESH! Has anyone paid attention to her now CHANGING stance on 'global warming'? She is buckling under globalist pressure ALREADY.
Why not vote Chuck Baldwin, and stop pretending you are being forced to vote for McCain! Since the inception of Roe vs Wade what has been done through the Republican party about abortion? NOTHING, people get a grip. "Righteousness exalteth a nation..", NOT compromise.
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- WE HAVE ALWAYS VOTED FOR THE LEAST EVIL
| Posted On: 09/16/08 01:03:16 PM | | Age 64, OH |
You speak as you would not stoop to do evil. Are you saying that you do not sin. Do we not deserve to be in complete hell forever for our sin. So you stoop to sin everyday do you not. If a Bible believing Christian should not vote for a evil man, then should a evil person be able to vote for anyone. Would not you be disqualified to vote for we are all evil are we not. Every man is evil and we are to vote for the least evil of the ones who have a real chance to win. If we do not then Obama will win and Obama makes a mockery out of all that Jesus stood for. IF WE DO NOT VOTE FOR THE LEAST EVIL THEN THE MOST EVIL WILL WIN. Lou
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- A sad Amen
| Posted On: 09/11/08 06:08:43 AM | | Age 34, ME |
Thank you to this lady who has pointed out what the word of God has to say about Mrs. Palin working in public office. I have heard Mrs. Palin compared to queen Ester but the details don't fit. I have heard it suggested that it is better to sacrifice the family of one (Palin's)for a nation of babies currently at risk of abortion. But the Bible says the "to obey is better than sacrifice". Mrs. Palin should lead her following by obeying the scripture and be "a keeper at home". Is it not better to keep the home and train her children in the way they should go so that there would be no unwanted babies in need of our salvation to begin with?
Sandee Washburn
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- God bless McCain and Palin
| Posted On: 09/10/08 11:49:14 PM | | Age 63, CA |
I am thankful to God that John McCain picked Sarah Palin to be his running mate. There is so much talk about the Christian beliefs of Palen and I know that the Liberal, anything goes Crowd, are running scared.I bet Alaska hasen't had this many people show up since hunting Season and they are all Liberals. The Liberal news Media and Obama Henchmen are in Alaska trying to dig up dirt on Palin. If they want dirt they don't have to look too far from home. America needs a change and I think McCain and Palin will bring it. God has blessed America in the Past and America needs to bow down and ask forgiveness for all the aborted babies and the Godlessness that has creeped into this Country. Obama's Pastor of 20 years had the blatant Odassity to Damn America from his Pulpit, in Gods Name. Where was the outcry? Obama Sat in that Church and listened and apparently agreed with what was being said for 20 years or maybe he just thinks the rest of us are stupid enough to believe that he never heard a word Wright said.I am tired of us Christians being bashed and all our rights being taken away. This Nation was founded on our God Given rights. I don't want to see someone becoming President who won't even Salute the American Flag. God bless John McCain and Sarah Palin. I Pray that God will give them his blessing and his protection.
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- Godly woman vs feminist
| Posted On: 09/10/08 11:18:39 PM | | Age 35, GA |
Men have underestimated women since time began. Starting with Eve, very persuasive gal got Adam to eat forbidden fruit.. Women are called to be help-mates. Vice President is a perfect example of a suitable position for a woman of influence. You haven't walked in Palin's shoes to know her priorities, but keeping her infant with her while doing her job is what the rest of us home makers do. We don't get credit for all we do and it is belittled by many. Palin just does her juggling more publicly. I am excited for girls everywhere for this opportunity, Palin, spirit-filled Christian, wife, mother, help-mate, experienced leader would have influence over our next possible president. Plus if anything were to happen to him, she would take over. Just because she is in a position of authority doesn't mean she doesn't submit to her husband, that is her personal life. Don't forget the Proverbs 31 woman she was a hard working woman her held many business interests and still took care of her family. What of Deborah a judge of Israel? She had the guts the guys didn't to obey God, hopefully so would Sarah Palin.
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- WHY DID DEBORAH LEAD ISRAEL
| Posted On: 09/18/08 05:20:31 AM | | Age 64, OH |
Who was Deborah and why did God choose her to be a prophetess. Let us look at the 1st part of Judges 4: 1 "After Ehud died, the Israelites once again did evil in the eyes of the LORD. 2 So the LORD sold them into the hands of Jabin, a king of Canaan, who reigned in Hazor. The commander of his army was Sisera, who lived in Harosheth Haggoyim. 3 Because he had nine hundred iron chariots and had cruelly oppressed the Israelites for twenty years, they cried to the LORD for help. 4 Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lappidoth, WAS LEADING ISRAEL AT THAT TIME".- God tells us why Deborah was judge of Israel right in this passage. Deborah was leading a fallen Israel. It says that Israel did evil in the eyes of the Lord. What it means here is that we are all a slave to whoever we chose to obey. If we chose to obey Satan, then we make ourselves a slave to him. Israel did not chose to serve the Lord But chose to serve Satan. The natural is a sign of the spiritual, so God sold Israel into the hands of Jabin. This was the mercy of God to show Israel what would be the end of serving Satan. For Jabin was very evil. The Holy Spirit tells us in Isaiah that God will give a fallen nation boys and women their officials. Look what God says about Jerusalem in that day, 21 See how the faithful city has become a harlot! She once was full of justice; righteousness used to dwell in her— but now murderers! and look what God does to show Jerusalem her sins. Isaiah 3:4 I will make boys their officials and in vs 12 Youths oppress my people, women rule over them. - It is the judgment of God to a fallen nation to give that nation women for officials. Look at all the women judges this nation has. It is against the command of the Lord for a woman to have authority over a man. It is an example to the world that it is OK for the people to do as they please and not obey Christ. For the woman is the symbol of the church and the man is the symbol of the Lord Jesus. A woman judge is an example to the church that it is OK for it to tell Jesus what to do. This nation is full of murder and that should also be a sign to us. But will this nation repent or will it continue on it's way to destruction like Jerusalem did. The answer I am afraid is already at our door. Our economy is falling as we speak like the house of cards that it is. Even as our economy falls this woman Feinburg is so foolish to agree with the worldly broadcaster instead of the preacher who states what the Bible says. I will probably vote for McCain-Palin for anyone is better than Obama. But I will not rejoice when I do. For it is the judgment of God on our nation. Lou
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- WHERE ARE ALL THE WOMAN LEADERS IN THE BIBLE
| Posted On: 09/16/08 01:12:17 PM | | Age 64, OH |
Does it not speak volumes, that the only example you can find of a woman leader in the entire Bible is Deborah. Ruth got a book titled after her name and she was a godly example of a woman. She was submissive and gentle of spirit. Esther got a book titled after her name and she was obedient to the King even though he was a heathen. Lou
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Why Should We Be Excited?
| Posted On: 09/10/08 10:51:52 AM |
Age 19, WA |
Even if all the reasons listed above are good and accurate reasons to like Palin (some are not), why should Christians vote for McCain on account of his running mate? Not many of these 15 reasons apply to McCain, to say nothing of his liberal record on other subjects.
Timothy Cover
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- LEAST EVIL or MOST EVIL
| Posted On: 09/16/08 01:16:13 PM | | Age 64, OH |
Would you then support the most liberal person in the Senate, who makes McCain look like a saint. Obama is the worst. If we do not vote for the least evil of them then the most evil will be our leader. Lou
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- We Are Responsible for Obedience, Not Results
| Posted On: 09/20/08 12:22:21 PM | | Age 19, WA |
I do think that McCain is an evil choice. The Bible sets out certain qualifications for the selection of rulers; McCain fails to meet these qualifications (as does Palin, if for no other reason than her gender). Since a vote is an expression of support, a vote for McCain expresses support for evil; and support for evil IS evil. We may not "do evil that good may come." The end doesn't justify the means. Leave the results to God. Timothy
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- He who has not sinned, cast the first stone
| Posted On: 09/23/08 02:22:58 PM | | Age 48, MO |
Hey Timothy, Your premise sounds rightous but what would you suggest? Would you not vote or would you vote for someone else? If you wouldn't vote then you would allow evil by default and be guilty of sin by omission. Its like saying you didn't stop the guy from raping your wife because your responsibility ended with "thou shalt not murder." Perhaps you would have voted for someone else, maybe the Catholic JFK, the baptist Jimmy Carter, or the baptist Bush? Who is the man of God that you would vote for now that your 19, Baldwin? Name him and I will give you 10 instances where he has failed, as we ALL have. John
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- But Is Active Support of Evil Better?
| Posted On: 09/24/08 10:20:14 AM | | Age 19, WA |
John, My belief is that it is disobedient to Scripture to support a biblically unqualified candidate. To select an evil candidate is to actively support evil. I fail to see why "allowing evil by default" (assuming that is the case) is as bad as ACTIVELY supporting evil. I don't think God ever makes us choose between committing one of two types of evil. By the way, I am honestly interested to hear your 10 instances where Baldwin has failed. Do any of them violate the Scriptural qualifications for leadership (if so, he should not even be a pastor)? Timothy
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- THE SONS OF GOD ARE THOSE WHO WALK IN THE SPIRIT
| Posted On: 09/22/08 06:43:51 AM | | Age 64, OH |
There is not one man running for the job that meets the Biblical qualifications. If this nation fails to defeat Obama they will soon find out, how foolish, inexperienced and ungodly this man is. We are not called to follow the letter of the law as Christians, but we are called to follow the Spirit of the law, who is the person of the Holy Spirit of the Lord Jesus. The sons of God are those who walk in the Spirit. Lou
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Palin gives hope
| Posted On: 09/10/08 09:36:41 AM |
Age 62, MO |
The nomination Palin seems to have brought hope to Republicans and Evangelicals alike so they can once again proclaim that their GOP is "God's Own Party." I sincerely hope that her nomination is more than just a vote getting ploy on the part of Republicans. I don't think the ruling elite will allow much of a difference to the welfare and prosperity of our nation. George Cancilla
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WOW
| Posted On: 09/10/08 09:34:42 AM |
Age 72, TX |
The choice of Palin is a total surprise to the democratic party. The choice of Biden by Obama was clearly related to his view that McCain is a Male Chauvinist and would pick Romney or Lieberman. BUT what a surprise for everyone. There is little that the Democratic Party can do to over come this. Obama has already attacked Hilary and alienated women voters Those voters McCain has picked up meaning victory is here. The only thing left is for her to face Biden in a debate and flatten him. At that point the election is over.
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