Great article
| Posted On: 11/14/09 10:27:38 AM |
Age 50, MD |
I like the article and I agree. One thing that i would add is the attack of Gog and Magog is going to happen at least three and one half years before the tribulation starts. Ezekiel 39:9-10 says; “Then those who dwell in the cities of Israel will go out and make fires of the weapons and burn them, shields and bucklers, bow and arrows, clubs and spears; and they will make fires of them for seven years, so that they will not need to take wood out of the field or cut down any out of the forests, for they will make their fires of the weapons. They will seize the spoil of those who despoiled them, and plunder those who plundered them, declares the Lord God. This tells us that Israel will live off the salvage of the destroyed armies for 7 years. Revelation 12:13-14 tells us that for the last half of the tribulation, Israel will have to flee to a place God has prepared for them in the wilderness, so the seven years of living off the salvage has to end by then. Doing the math,this means that this attack has to happen at least 3 1/2 years prior to the tribulation and could be before the rapture. I have more information at www.hisreturn.jimdo.com
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The Branch Is Yet Tender
| Posted On: 11/13/09 11:43:54 AM |
Age 46, GA |
Please stop giving false information.All that Corinthians and Thessalonians is saying is that we will be raptured, but not when. It's sure not before the tribulation period.What did Jesus say? that we would go through it!I agree with the 2012 tribulation
theory, but not the rapture.Jesus tells us that we defineately go through it! Just because your afraid to tell the truth won't make it go away. Let's do as Jesus instructed, first let no man deceive you,and be ready. Don't be a false prophet and tell people we won't go through tribulation, but rather try to let them know just how bad it will be. I feel like there are to many "theologins" that only think they know something rather than are in touch with God so that might reaaly know what will happen, and how we might get through it. It starts by communicating with God, and not just asking your selfish wants.
I only pray as Jesus taught us, "thy will be done" and have learned more from God than most "scholars" have. But please stop lying to people about a "pre-trib" rapture because it simply isn't true.
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2012
| Posted On: 06/28/09 07:54:44 PM |
Age 53, NC |
Ihave a very close friend of mine who by the way,was givin a gift from GOD since he was about eight years old.To heal the sick,and the gift of wisdom[dreams and revalations].He shared with me a dream about 2012 and 2019.He said and quote.Men will prosper until 2012,then from that point on ther will come bad times.witch from 12 to 19 are 7 years....
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The Two Witness's
| Posted On: 11/13/08 03:02:11 PM |
Age 41, TX |
Mark,
Your article doesn't mention anything about the two witnes's mentioned in Rev. 11. Where do you believe they fall in all of this? Will they appear before the church is raptured or after? And who are they? After all, clearly they play a very important role in all of this.
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- witnesses
| Posted On: 11/14/09 10:07:42 AM | | Age 50, MD |
The two witnesses are clearly after the rapture, they will prophesize during the first half of the tribulation after which Antichrist will have them killed, causing a worldwide celebration. But after three days, God will raise them and they will ascend to heaven. For more information on this and the endtimes visit www.hisreturn.jimdo.com
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My thoughts
| Posted On: 09/07/08 02:27:51 AM |
Age 29, NEW ZEALAND |
Well, I'm informend 2012 is definetley going to happen. I know the anti-christ and she is a woman. Really nice person. But there is another, her husband. He is infact God. He is here to send all those that listen to her to hell with her. I'm also informed hell isn't forever though you think it does, and it does last for a very very long time. That's all i can give you and may God have mercy on your soul!
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J N Darby repackaged
| Posted On: 08/11/08 07:47:10 AM |
Age 46, ENGLAND |
The teaching in this article has been around for years and I used to subscribe to it. I don't anymore. The King is coming - that is the clear teaching of the Bible. All of the discussions around this glorious future event are theories based on different interpretations of the Bible. Who's theory is right? We'll see! In the meantime let's stop castigating each other and making stupid comments like, 'I hope all the post-tribbers get their opportunity to go through all seven years of God's judgment.' Let's live like The King's coming tomorrow and plan for the next fifty years.
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Duane
| Posted On: 08/09/08 01:22:01 PM |
Age 63, KS |
It is very interesting how many "experts" disagree on this issue. All I know is that there are thousands of Christians in China, Russia, North Korea, several countries in Africa and the Mid-east who have gone and continue to go thru tribulation.
It is very convenient and popular for us to believe we won't have to go thru any tribulation.
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The Rapture: Escapism
| Posted On: 08/08/08 11:42:01 AM |
Age 45, NJ |
It is clear we have a difference of opinion but it is merely one of unimportant disagreement. In other words we can still be brothers and not agree on this matter.
Here is my writing on the subject...
The "Rapture" - The Teaching of Escapism:
http://www.onlyjesussaves.com/PatrickArchive/RaptureDisputation.htm
Patrick J Burwell/OnlyJesusSaves.com
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Rapture takes place around 2012
| Posted On: 08/06/08 10:23:30 AM |
Age 50, TN |
Great article.Many people believe that Jesus will return 6000 years after Adam for His 1000 year rule.The greatest Bible experts such as Perry Stone wwwperrystone.org and Jack Van Impe wwwjvim.com believe in the soon rapture of the church. You can submit your questions to Jack Van Impe. Van Impe said according to Rev 3:10 we won't be around for the tribulation. The Bible says, "I will keep you "from" out of the hour of temptation which comes upon all the earth. So let's rejoice. God wants Christians to impart before we depart! The reason there has been confusion is because Christians wrongly believed the end times began with Israel becoming a nation in 1948 and wrongly believed a generation is 40 years. Hal Lindsey made made both errors. We don't begin with 1948 but with the Jews capturing Jerusalem in 1967 according to Daniel 9:24 and Luke 21:24. As Jack Van Impe said, "A big error has always been that a generation supposedly was a 40 year period. No, "Forty years was I grieved with this generation" the Lord said in Psalm 95:10 but He didn't say a generation was 40 years. A generation according to Matt 1:17 and Luke 3 comes out to 52 years both times. You add 52 to 1967 and you come out to 2019 minus 7 years for the rapture and that comes out to 2012. The Bible says no one knows the hour but it says we can know when it is at the door. So let's reoice Jesus is about to return and impart before we depart!
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- The Branch Is Yet Tender
| Posted On: 11/13/09 11:18:33 AM | | Age 46, GA |
We will not be raptured in 2012, but as you beleive, I beleive that it will be the start of the tribulation.But if you know what Jesus said of the end times,you know first that there will be false prophets(which is any one who tries to teach a "pre-trib" rapture)and that there will be many things that everyone will have to endure. Please stop using those scriptures from Thessalonians and Corinthians as doctrine for your deceition. I know that no one wants to realize that we are going to have to go through three and a half years (actually 1335 days{Daniel 12:12})of tribulation, but it's simply not fair to lie to people about what you would like to happen, and start telling the truth.I beleive exactly what Jesus said " let no man deceive you " and "be ready".Yes spiritually, but also pshically with what we might need.
I would love to talk to any one about what I feel is really going to happen in the next few years, and what we will need to do to endure until the end.
In God's love, Barry
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FALSE PROPHETS and The Easy Way Out
| Posted On: 08/06/08 07:15:42 AM |
Age 50, MN |
No Man Knows The Day Or Hour....
The Hebrew Calender starts on a diffrent day and hour every year...We are to recognize the Season....can you say HARVEST ?
Sorry folks but mid-trib or post trib wins out over PRE-TRIB...If there were any people that deserved to be raptured which is the same as TRANSLATED it would have been the apostles of CHRIST.They all got executed or exiled. What a reward for their work. Our reward comes in Heaven and we are to HATE THIS WORLD. Enoch and Elijah, the only 2 people "raptured", ever. We are promised protection during the tribulation. The Israelites weren't hurt by the plagues against Egypt now were they? Anybody that wants to start calling people satan's little helpers best be careful because the Bible clearly states that satan is the father of lies and that satan even MIMICS Christ.
There are verses in 1 John that go so far as to tell you that you can LOSE your salvation.
Yet there are other verses that tell you that if you believe in CHRIST JESUS you are saved.PERIOD.There are also other verses that tell you that FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD FAITH yet we are not saved by works but by GRACE. Want to start TWISTING scripture?
The wicked are removed from this Earth,the meek inherit the Earth. The millenial reign is to clean up the mess and get ready for the ultimate battle. WE DON'T DESERVE TO BE "raptured"...the Apostles did.
Even RUTH GRAHAM said, " It would be better to be raptured waiting for tribulation then it would to wind up in the middle of tribulation when you thought you were going to be raptured!! " Thanks RUTH ! ! ! You Folks Better Put On The ARMOR Of CHRIST JESUS because we haven't seen anything yet. Timothy J Clark
P.S. The stars and the Universe DON'T lie....The Mayan Calender is not astrology. It's astronomy. They know how the " Star Of Bethlehem " was formed....it's an astronomical fact.
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- thank you!
| Posted On: 11/13/09 11:22:50 AM | | Age 46, GA |
this is exactly how i feel!I just wrote a response to one of the false prophets.
Thank you!
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