Too much nitpicking
| Posted On: 05/08/08 09:53:30 AM |
Age 46, AL |
Why does it matter that Jesus is excluded? Most Protestants exclude mentioning the Holy Spirit. According to the Bible, you can Blaspheme God and Jesus and still be forgiven, but Blaspheme the Holy Spirit, then you are in dill of a pickle._______________
Maybe one should look at their own prayers and prayer system before looking at the prayer system of other entities. The mote and and plank come to mind.
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- Blaspheme
| Posted On: 05/09/08 08:51:17 AM | | Age 47, MO |
I don't know about most Protestants not mentioning the Holy Spirit, but blaspheme of the HS IS to denounce Christ in us. It IS to sit on our hands when we should help, it IS to say nothing when we should speak, it IS to accept other gods when we should denounce them, it IS to accept a lie when we should speak the truth. It IS to not recognize Christ at work, or Christ in others. Given this, I don't see the point of your post. Aren't these things what John is attesting too? John
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Not a Christian Organization
| Posted On: 05/07/08 01:22:07 PM |
Age 51, MN |
I have never considered AA a 'christian organization', but they have been effective in helping literally hundreds of thousands of people battling with addictions. Unfortunately very few churches or pastors are equipped to lead people out of this insidious addiction - it does often take specialized help and AA is a solid resource. They don't insist someone deny Jesus - just like they don't insist someone accept Jesus to get help. This thing needs to be battled on every front possible and I'm grateful AA and Al-Anon provide some great resources for individuals and families. I really don't get this article.
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- Not a Christian Organisation
| Posted On: 01/18/09 03:45:39 PM | | Age 46, ENGLAND |
There is no question people do get offended who hear talk about Alcoholics Anonymous being a bad and corrupt organisation. After all, most people who do end up hooked on alcohol oftentimes have no place left where they are made welcome. From the outside looking in Alcoholics Anonymous does seem to be providing a worthy service to humanity by keeping its doors open to any person who has a 'drink problem'. But people really ought try to see that AA is not a mere once a week tea and biscuits gathering for addicts. It is a series of lifelong lectures about spiritism condensed into (ODAAT) where both novice and master alike get a hearing before a hushed audience. But because credence is given to people who have stayed abstinent the longest new members will tend to aspire to the 'spiritual life' they hear old-timers speak of. This 'life' is spelled out in its 'Big Book' and new members are urged to study it. There is no mention of Christ on the AA reading list which, in turn, leaves the door open to all kinds of spiritually dangerous ideas.
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AA and their Higher Power
| Posted On: 05/07/08 09:15:48 AM |
Age 54, FL |
Although I do agree with the article, I must disagree with the way the some of the scriptures are being prsented, like, 2 Corinthians 6 vs 14-17 is being presented. Yes it does say not to be bound with unbelievers, but wouldn't you agree that this would be a great oportunity to show who is the Real Higher is? And We are not to hang out with unbelievers if it is going to influence us to do as they do. That is why we are to seperate ourselves from them. To be bound is like a marriage situation. It is clear that belivers should not marry unbelivers because of the strain it would put between the two. If AA can help someone be it Christian or not, then so be it but I do not believe that a Christian should not seek help because it is not Christian based. I think it should be an opprotunity to interject our faith. And above all pray, pray, pray for God's strength to keep us from falling. Thank you Vicky
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- Missionaries Into AA
| Posted On: 05/08/08 02:11:42 PM | | Age 54, OR |
I completely agree we need to be in AA as missionaries, but not as worshipers of an all-gods religion. The Body of Christ can do much better--but we have to start somewhere. We cannot keep saying "Well, we are not helping, but that is what AA is for."
Biblically, we are prohibited from being part of it. Unfortunately, and I know this may offend many, many of our brothers and sisters in AA need to see what they are involved with.
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Christ is Enough
| Posted On: 05/07/08 06:54:06 AM |
Age 36, TN |
I became a borderline alcoholic during my time in the Marine Corps, and it lasted for a few years afterwards. It was not until I repented of my sins and surrendered my life to Jesus Christ that I was able to break the bonds of alcoholism. The verse that helped me most during this time was Phillipians 4:13 - "I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me" (KJV).
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AA pluralistic prayers to higher power.
| Posted On: 05/06/08 11:04:53 PM |
Age 70, IL |
Thanks you so much, John, for writing this article. This AA baloney has always aggravated me to no end, but Christians always defended it saying, 'well as long as it helps one get off alcohol.' The end always justifies the means with Christians.
I commend you for being so brave and taking this stand; I know you will have many Christians who will disagree with you. I also know that such attacks against your unpopular belief with only make you stronger in standing up for the truth of the Holy Bible and our precious Jesus. God bless you very, very much.
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- Truth About AA
| Posted On: 05/09/08 10:34:04 AM | | Age 54, OR |
Thanks for your encouragement. Over the years I have noticed when Christians who attend AA are confronted with this their initial response is very strong. But, look what they have tied up in AA: friends, support, maybe even sobriety.
Some end up searching the Scripture, actually applying God's Word to this all-gods religion. Many, however, do not want to know they may be in disobedience.
It's hard for them because AA is an idol. In their hearts they do not believe they can either get sober or remain sober without it.
May the Lord raise up missionaries to send into AA to free not just unbelievers but Christians who do not realize AA is an idol to them.
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Oh foolish Galatian
| Posted On: 05/06/08 10:59:27 PM |
Age 61, TX |
Your take on A.A. is sad and harmful, for we rescue people daily that your religion has pushed away. In the name of Jesus, you've smeared the life and reputation of a man whose God-given vision has put the people you reject on the path to Him, and I wouldn't want to be you when God asks you why. Were He alive today, Jesus would be in our meeting halls and not in your nice sanctuaries, because He could make a difference here. You and your ilk are modern day Pharisees, who have a form of religion but lack the Spirit you claim gives you special knowledge permitting such slander. You know nothing of A.A. Nothing.
"Many will call me Lord, Lord, but I will say I never knew you."
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- AA is another gospel
| Posted On: 05/08/08 02:19:06 PM | | Age 54, OR |
I have been homeless and addicted to alcohol and heroin. Jesus Christ is the answer. There are a lot of wonderful people in AA, many of them Christians, but that does not change the fact that this is an all-gods religion. Your response is entitled 'O Foolish Galatians.' In Galatians Paul warns against another gospel--which is really no gospel at all. He says may he who brings it be accursed. What does AA teach? That the nature of God does not matter--you can believe in whatever you choose or make up. This, my friend, is a spiritual system that is NOT the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
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- AA is another gospel
| Posted On: 05/09/08 08:29:41 AM | | Age 46, MO |
Amen brother....thanks for the article. For awhile I counseled in recovery programs at a church. Then the Lord showed me the error of it all. It is all based on psychology and psychology is a religion of self. It may grant a temporary relief of the issue and/or addiction at hand, but it never gets to the root of the problem. True faith and dependency on Jesus gets to the root. And Jesus is enough. Nothing that man has made will last...it is of the flesh. Our confidence should never rest in self...self-esteem, self-recovery, self-whatever...it should rest only in the work of Jesus Christ.
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