what are we protecting?
| Posted On: 04/03/08 09:50:40 AM |
Age 27, IL |
What I am concerned about is us defending our "consumerism" from some quasi theological standpoint. It's an issue.
Acid rain is not a made up piece of liberal propaganda.
I really have a hard time understanding what we are defending.
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- re: what are we protecting?
| Posted On: 04/03/08 07:43:26 PM | | Age 41, CANADA | This is a very good question indeed. I believe you'll find the answer in Brannon's final paragraph of his article:
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So if you think the variation of temperature by a degree or two in one way or another is worthy of destroying America, free enterprise, and our national sovereignty, then hop on the band wagon...
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Having subscribed to the Worldview Network newsletter for some time now I've seen a consistent pattern of thought. I've come to the conclusion that the worldview that is promoted here is more of an "American Manifest Destiny" worldview that presumes the a never-ending dominance of the "American Way" in this world. The prominence of the American coat of arms and/or the American flag on all the promotional posters on this website only serves to reinforce this sense for me.
Please don't take these comments as being anti-American; I simply believe that to form a truly Biblical worldview, we need to remember who God's chosen people are, and that God's purposes for his worldwide church will be centered around the complete fullfillment of prophecy as it relates to his chosen people (this may or may not include preserving American free-enterprise, or America as super-power for that matter).
Back to the point of "global warming"... I think Brannon is completely missing the opportunity to frame this from a Biblical worldview perspective, and has instead presented it from a "we must preserve the American Way" perspective. It's not important whether or not CO2 emissions are causing global warming which might destroy the world... God is sovereign! What's important is that we do know they cause adverse health effects and respiratory disease through the byproduct of smog. As believers, we should have been advocating for zero-emission vehicles long before the global warming scare! Since we are commanded to be good stewards (not worshipers) of what God has given us, this is our moral responsibility not only to God, but also to our children.
Related thought: it will be interesting to see if big-auto and big-oil eventually face the same legal fate as big-tobbacco! Click here to reply to this post
- My husband's aunt
| Posted On: 04/06/08 08:34:08 AM | | Age 29, TX | My husband has a very beloved aunt, who gave our baby daughter a really beautiful sweater. It was handmade, and it was intricate. I wrote in the thank-you note that I was hesitant to use it, because I was afraid it would be ruined. She wrote back and told me that she had made it to be used, and that she could make another one if it were torn or stained; and besides, the baby would grow out of it quickly enough...It made me think: God made this world, and He made it to be used, not to be wrapped in tissue and stored away. We'll soon be getting a new one, so there's nothing wrong with "everyday use" of the planet, is there? (By the way, the last time I heard about "acid rain," it was just under 20 years ago...)--Mrs. Pilgrim Click here to reply to this post
- Acid Rain,big Auto, and "the American Way"
| Posted On: 04/04/08 12:19:19 AM | | Age 51, PA | I can barely remember, but I'm not mistaken, when not only was industry darkening our skies but nearly every home had coal furnaces. When the boilers at the school were fired the coal soot would show on the snow through the neighborhood. There is no doubt that the air today is much clearer than then. The Pittsburgh area no longer has the sun blotted out by smoke and soot. I still live in an ares where electricity is produced by coal burning. A drive by the plants shows much water vapor being produced, but no smoke. Are these plants pollution free? No! but the improvements, in my lifetime, are impressive. In nations as large as the US or Canada, autos and trucks are necessary. The next big step for them will be water power. Breaking the molecules apart and burning the hydrogen, onboard. It's being done now, but meeting intense resistance from big oil(profits) and government(taxes). Government being the biggest impediment. How to replace all the taxes oil brings in?
God has blessed the Americas because the people worshiped Him and for the most part lead lives disdaining evil. Our sliding into immorality/evil is so evident, that our environmental, economic and societal problems should be no surprise. Greed has replaced compassion. Even among those whose pretense is "saving the planet". Click here to reply to this post

On Skepticism and Other Motives
| Posted On: 04/02/08 04:20:46 PM |
Age 72, AR |
Never has a concept or individual action or function in the realm of human activity and knowledge advanced without someone first being skeptical, asking the question "Why are we doing this?" or "Could we do this better, or understand this better?" Thus, skepticism about global warming, or anything else, is entirely appropriate. Indeed, science begins with skepticism and travels the path of inquiry to understanding. Contrarily, to argue against assertions, conjectures, even substantiated conclusions, by people who have spent their productive lives seeking understanding of something, anything but in this case climate change and its causes and effects, by questioning their motives rather than their processes, results and thinking is nothing more than bearing false witness to put it into the terminology of those who think all knowledge must have religious basis. To make such false accusations for motives nowhere explained in this article and without substantiation qualifies as an immoral, even evil, act.
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- Exscuse me...
| Posted On: 04/02/08 05:15:34 PM | | Age 61, MO | It remains to be seen if any accusations about the motives of global warming advocates are true of false. The accusations are out there for deliberation. It does not matter whether this article addresses these motives, The article does generate enough information to cause inquiry about these motives. There is nothing immoral or evil about stating one's opinion. George Cancilla Click here to reply to this post
Energy
| Posted On: 04/02/08 11:22:51 AM |
Age 27, IL |
What is wrong with moving away from oil dependency?
We are paying for our lack of innovation at the pump. Is that being a good steward of our finances?
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- Oil dependency
| Posted On: 04/02/08 01:48:47 PM | | Age 61, MO | There is nothing wrong with moving away from oil dependency. As a matter of fact, more of an effort should be made to implement solar energy sources for power. Solar energy sources include solar panels, wind generators, and hyro electric. It may not provide enough efficient energy to run big manufacturing operations, but then we don't really need big manufacturing operations. Alternative energy might cause us to have slow down, but maybe that is exactly what we need to do. I personally don't see why so many people need to be flying somewhere all the time. George Cancilla Click here to reply to this post
- Problem with solar
| Posted On: 04/06/08 08:35:51 AM | | Age 29, TX | ...We don't have enough ground space for enough solar panels to cover our needs, much less our current consumption. Same is true of wind and hydro. We need to use nuclear--and guess who's against that?--Mrs. Pilgrim Click here to reply to this post
- Needs
| Posted On: 04/08/08 06:40:07 PM | | Age 61, MO | Perhaps we need to redefine our needs and the methods we use to produce them. Nuclear energy results in seriously unbiodegradable residues, that if not contained properly can cause contamination of ground water and birth defects. George Cancilla Click here to reply to this post
- WE NEED TO USE LESS
| Posted On: 04/09/08 08:43:18 AM | | Age 64, OH | George, redefining our energy needs is the solution. Americans are hogs to put it in simple terms. My electric bill is $23 a month but I have a friend in Dallas who has an electric bill of $400 per month. Both house holds are for two people. If every house was insulated properly, and energy conservation was a priority, that would solve our current situation. If my energy use is at $400 per month then my roof is not large enough for a solar panel to fill the need. But if my energy use is $23 then my roof is more than big enough to fill my needs with a solar panel. It is possible right now to make a car that would run most days from work and back without using any fuel or very little. But this car would not be a 5000 pound SUV. Not even to mention, if Americans would get off their duff and ride a bike to work. The US has spent all of it's money on pro sports stadiums and entertainment and not invested in things such as bike trails along all roads and mass transit. Lou Click here to reply to this post

Earth in the balance
| Posted On: 04/02/08 08:29:42 AM |
Age 61, MO |
There are many other environmental issues to consider before global warming. Dumping of toxic waste and stip mining upset the ecological balance and should be regulated, but by local governments, not the United Nations. Good stewardship of God's resources should be exercised by businesses as well as individuals. Improper disposal of sewage and garbage is a threat to the health of everyone in community; but these issues are already regulated in most areas of America, if not over regulated. I am sure God is capable of keeping the earth in or out of balance according to His will and for His glory. I don't think Al Gore is God's designated prophet for global warming. If Gore wants to be a better steward of God's resources, then maybe he should consider flying less to attend the wasteful conferences. I DO think Al Gore is a false prophet sent by the global elite to help establish their diabolical agenda for one world government and global economics. Environmental protection is a local issue. It has to start at home. George Cancilla
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The Chilling Truth About Global Warming
| Posted On: 04/02/08 06:51:55 AM |
Age 62, FL |
Back in the very early 70's I read a book by David Wilkerson can't remember the name right now. Oh, it was called "The Vision". In his book he talked about the weather and how weather will become unexplainable (paraphrased). Weather predictors can't explain the change in the weather.
So the false prophets of today are claiming it's because of man. We must be awful power if we can change the climate. Anyway, it's not man who is changing anything it's Jehovah God. It's His earth and His weather. God is turning up the heat, physically and spiritually.
Thank you for your article.
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