HOW MANY ATHEISTS TAKE THEIR MESSAGE TO SAUDIA ARABIA
| Posted On: 01/29/08 06:20:35 PM |
Age 64, OH |
I do not agree with either side on this issue. I agree with George C. when he said that when we put other groups down we do not cause them to seek Christ. On the other hand Ray does have a very valid point. There are plenty of people who are in a nation that has found the freedom of the Christian principles found in the Bible by Christian men. They are in a nation enjoying the freedom to speak their mind. yes they speak against Muslims also but that is the minority of what they speak. But one thing is sure they do not go into the nations where the Muslims are to speak against the Muslims so that the Muslims can hear. How many have gone into the nation of Saudi Arabia and said these things there as they do when they speak against Christ in a free nation. We know that if they did they would not return to tell of it. Certainly one could make a strong argument that this lack of action is dishonest and even cowardly. Lou
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- Your own poison
| Posted On: 02/20/08 08:27:31 AM | | Age 19, NE |
If you say that it would be cowardly to go to Saudi Arabia and speak out against Islam as an atheist, couldn't you also say that a Christan who wouldn't go to Saudi Arabia and preach against Islam is just as cowardly? Are you willing to potentially die for really nothing except making Muslims mad? I know I wouldn't, not because I'm a coward, but because I'm not a moron
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Ty
| Posted On: 01/29/08 12:10:27 AM |
Age 35, WI |
I once seen some superman underoos pajamas that said " wearing this suit will not constitute you being able to fly" or how about the jug of antifreeze with the warning label "do not lick cap" and the Surgeon General he must be a ciggaphobe because there that warning on the side of all packs of cigarettes that if you smoke these it’s known to cause lung cancer, heart disease, mouth cancer, emphysema, birth defects and host of other problems.
So you see the Surgeon General is a bigot and hates all cigarette smokers or maybe just maybe he might be trying to warn that if you partake in this habit there is a high chance of there being health problems.
Same way I believe God is not some hogey pogey trying to ruin all your fun but is trying to show you a better way.
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Agree to disagree?
| Posted On: 01/28/08 11:22:08 PM |
Age 36, PA |
I just want to say that I am a Christian. I have the right to pursue my belief the way I am convicted to do so. I am anti-abortion but do not personally protest abortion clinics. I am convinced (according to my religious beliefs)that homosexuality is wrong, but I love homosexuals. My point is that us Christians come in many shapes, sizes and colors. We all aren't looking to engage in verbal assault with people who disagree with us. I fully respect the right of anyone to believe in anything they want to. This includes atheists. I have friends that claim to be atheists. We have had conversations about our beliefs and at the end of the day we respected each other and carried on our friendship. No where, no where, do I find any scripture that tells me to engage in verbal assault or physical assault with anyone who does not believe the truth (as I have come to know it, of course). Most people aren't properly equipped to do "battle" anyhow. It's more convenient to get in a shouting match and exchange verbal potshots and then proclaim how hot hell is and how much satisfaction "us" Christians will have in knowing that atheists will burn there forever for their ignorance. Grow up!!! True seekers will be open to ideas, but people who are as convicted of their beliefs as I am of mine will be defend it just as vehemently. In that, I say let's agree to disagree. No need to hate!!!
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- All christians should be open minded ????
| Posted On: 01/29/08 06:20:30 PM | | Age 49, CANADA |
What a foolish thing to say :
Quote "Grow up!!! True seekers will be open to ideas, but people who are as convicted of their beliefs as I am of mine will be defend it just as vehemently. In that, I say let's agree to disagree. No need to hate!!!"
Response: True Christians are not open to ideas of how a person can be saved. Jesus is the only way, no one comes to the Father except through Jesus the Christ alone. We have a world view that is unique and not open to new ideas. No need to hate. Our need is to tell the truth no matter what the cost to us !!!
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Atheists have spoken out
| Posted On: 01/28/08 06:19:35 PM |
Age 64, VA |
Sam Harris and Christopher Hitchens have spoken out. And you have been to the these sites and can verify that they are not facing the same barrage? Think not.
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- Atheists have spoken out . . . a little
| Posted On: 01/30/08 01:48:46 PM | | Age 46, MO |
You've missed something of Comfort's point. It's one thing to write your own comments on your own site; it's quite another to surf to the site of someone with whom you vehemently disagree and proceed to do so with lots of vitriol and mockery. Sure, Harris et al write this stuff on their own pages. All of us are aware of that. Comfort is talking about (challenging, even) those non-theists who visit Christians' sites with the sole purpose of baiting and barking at them to go to Muslims' sites and do the same. I dare say he's right; there are probably few if any non-theists who try. Why? Because as much as you dislike Christians, you're confident we won't issue fatwas against you.
It is, essentially, the same kind of cowardly bully seen on elementary school playgrounds. You dislike kid A and kid B equally, but you pick on kid A and leave B alone because you know B will kick your a-- and A won't.
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Nope
| Posted On: 01/28/08 03:54:58 PM |
Age 30, SWEDEN |
Atheists don't criticise Islam? Sure they do. Sam Harris and Christopher Hitchens certainly don't mince words in that area. Nor do PZ Myers, Ed Brayton, and pretty much every atheist blogger around. And I defy anyone to call Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Salman Rushdie or Theo van Gogh "chicken".
Ray, once again you've based a rant on a premise that's trivially false.
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Hitchens anyone?
| Posted On: 01/28/08 01:40:04 PM |
Age 18, CA |
Um, Christopher Hitchens has basically endorsed the idea that we should kill as many muslims as necesary to drive them back. (He comes close to endorsing genocide) Harris agrees on the need to stop Islam in its tracks in order to prevent nuclear terrorism. Since those are two the big four I am going to assume people who consider them chicken haven't read their books.
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If you were only right.
| Posted On: 01/28/08 11:31:35 AM |
Age 31, PA |
You guys don't have a clue. If you'd read The End of Faith, The God Delusion, or God Is Not Great, you'd know that Comfort has just put his foot in his mouth.
Consider:
http://formsmostbeautiful.blogspot.com/2007/12/islamic-creationism-is-at-least-as.html
Wake up. These assertions are all nonsense.
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Argument from Ignorance
| Posted On: 01/28/08 09:24:44 AM |
Age 48, MI |
Christopher Hitchens? Sam Harris? Karen Armstrong's seminal and prophetic book, "The Battle for God?"
My personal experiences is that non-theists have never been more prolific in castigating Islam, both in book form and constant public appearances broadcast both on TV and the Internet. You are making an argument from ignorance that appears to be lapped up enthusiastically by a gullible set of readers.
The fact that we non-theists see all fundamental and many evangelical Christianists as an internal danger to our country's future does not cloud our eyes to the reality that all fundamentalist religions are dangerous to the health, wealth, and individual liberty of its citizens, a fact repeated through-out history.
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I don't understand your claim.
| Posted On: 01/27/08 12:38:33 PM |
Age 32, IL |
Here is but one place where this happens.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/
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You've Got It All Wrong
| Posted On: 01/27/08 07:41:43 AM |
Age 21, IN |
Please spare me this stereotype on atheists. Not all of us attack Christians. In fact, many of us do not really care about what you believe. If it makes you happy, go for it. What gets on our nerves is when a Christian tries to "save" an atheist. YOU need to think about what you are doing to those who are quite happy the way they are. And if there are atheists who are not happy, they will come to you.
By the way, I don't want to hear any comments about how a current Christian use to be an atheist and was not happy that way, because to be honest, each person's religious belief is different. Though they may not have been happy, that doesn't mean that the next atheist is not as well.
And as a last comment, it says in your posting feedback instructions that those who respond with personal attacks will not be accepted. I'm outraged, because this whole post was a personal attack, and I am personally offended!
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- You've got it wrong...too
| Posted On: 02/01/08 11:10:13 PM | | Age 19, MN |
"YOU need to think about what you are doing to those who are quite happy the way they are. And if there are atheists who are not happy, they will come to you."
Someone who is happy has little weight to whether we (or at least should) go out and witness to that person. Just so you are aware, the gospel is not about making you happy or wealthy or thrilled or any of the like (though this can be a side effect :D).
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