Re: Letter from a Worldview Weekend Speaker and Future Prisoner
| Posted On: 11/29/07 01:06:07 PM |
Age 42, TX |
This is truly a frightening article, frightening because it is just too realistic given the current situation in the world. Yet, even so, influential conservative leaders like Dobson have not yet gotten around to supporting Huckabee. I'm not exactly sure what Dobson is waiting for. Who else would he support, Fred Thompson? Give me a break.
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- Re: Re: Letter from a Worldview Weekend Speaker and Future Prisoner
| Posted On: 11/30/07 04:01:08 PM | | Age 37, MI |
How about Ron Paul? The conservative Christian congressman running from your own state!
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Re: Letter from a Worldview Weekend Speaker and Future Prisoner
| Posted On: 11/29/07 12:38:15 PM |
Age 54, MS |
Greetings, Thank you so much for the sobering reminder of HOW MUCH IS AT STAKE
IN THE UPCOMING PRESEDENTIAL ELECTION. I do not understand why so many of our Christian leaders are jumping onto the Guiliani bandwagon. ( I understand many feel he would be the best to protect America from a terrorist attack. Have they forgotten, "Except the LORD keeps the city, the watchman waketh but in vain". As long as America has the blood of innocent babies on our hands, we are in greater danger from God's forsaking us, than from all the terrorists in the world. We have a mighty God, and if we return to Him, who can touch His people? Mike Huckbabee is surprising a lot of people with his strong showing in key states. The more I listen to him, the more I like him. I strongly believer he is the best choice we have for 2008. Let us pray for him, that he will continue to be an articulate speaker for truth and justice. We have a God that raises up kings, and brings kings down. Let us ask the Ruler of All, to give us a leader who
BOWS THE KNEE before the GOD OF ALL.
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Re: Letter from a Worldview Weekend Speaker and Future Prisoner
| Posted On: 11/29/07 12:36:25 PM |
Age 18, AL |
I tend to doubt that this much persecution will come this fast. But Hillary does pose a severe threat to the continued existence of Christianity in America.
Hillary is pure poison. Guiliani is poison mixed with a little bit of GOP pride - so it goes down easier, but it's just as deadly.
I might vote for Guiliani against Hillary, but I know it wouldn't help. I would never vote for Guiliani against Obama. I would rather have an intelligent, straightforward liberal as president than a double-talking pseudorepublican.
Huckabee is not just a values candidate - he is also a very strong leader with excellent domestic policies. Conservatives need to support Huckabee on the basis of his sound policies as well as his sound morals, or he will only be seen as "that ultraconservative" who only gets values votes.
The time has passed when elections were divided solely on the issues of morality. Want to know why? We elected a House and Senate full of Republicans because they were pro-life and GOP fundies - but they sat on their hands lazily. The American people kicked them out and replaced them with Democrats who would do SOMETHING - unfortunately it's not the right thing. Conservatives need to take an aggressive (in other words, not "just the status quo") stance on taxes, economics, education, healthcare, energy, and the host of other issues that the Democrats have targeted so well.
As the old saying goes, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." Well, in the public opinion more is broke with this nation than just abortion and gay controversy. Abortion is probably the most crucial issue - agreed. But we cannot continue to base our entire platform as conservatives on the abortion issue or we will lose the American public. Americans as a whole dislike abortion because they know it is wrong. They haven't been told HOW wrong. But that's not enough.
We need to present the American people with a candidate who has the "right stuff" in the areas of morality and isn't afraid to speak out against the situational morals of the left, but who also has proactive solutions for the host of other problems that are staring Americans in the face. We need to be proactive about taking care of skyrocketing insurance costs in a conservative manner - by ending monopolies, lowering taxes, and reforming the judicial system in a way that the public can SEE. We need to be proactive about education by axing No Child Left Behind and making more options available for public and private educators.
We have an advantage, folks! Conservative policy works. Plus, people know it, because conservative policy also makes sense. Liberal policy neither works nor makes sense, but it still sounds awfully nice when couched in the right terms by liberal media. We have this advantage ... we need to get up off our lazy posteriors and let the public know that we have solutions - solutions that both sound good and also WORK.
Unless we can do this, there is no hope for the obese, lethargic, odiferous mass we call the conservative right.
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- "Continued existence of Christianity in America."
| Posted On: 11/30/07 09:09:33 AM | | Age 42, TX |
The Lord adds to His Church daily. Can Hillary or any candidate cannot squelch Church growth? However, Hillary or some other candidate CAN put an end to this cultural churchianity that is so pitiful and not Christ-centered. This just won't do for those who seek comfort and not ot take up their cross daily. Political activism which masks itself as godly concern shows faith in our ability to make this world into a moral place; not faith in God's sovereignty.
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Re: Letter from a Worldview Weekend Speaker and Future Prisoner
| Posted On: 11/29/07 11:25:43 AM |
Age 67, CA |
Wow! Janet Folger does a great job of putting a very possible future into perspective. For those of you who don't believe it is possible, think again. It is already happening and most of us are asleep. Evil is as evil does. America loving Christians, please wake up before it's too late! God expects us to stand up and take action. Write, support, speak out, and vote wisely.
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Church Growth and Persecution
| Posted On: 11/29/07 11:14:31 AM |
Age 42, TX |
First of all, Praise God for our writer, Janet, who knows her stand for Christ will imprison her if persecution arises. John 15:20.. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; ...
About a year ago, I heard a Chinese woman on the radio, by translator, who said "do not pray for the persecution to end in China. The Lord is using persecution to grow the Church in China." This was maybe a 10 second blurb, but the words so contrasted against what I was used to hearing about persecuted Christians.
Have you heard to pray for persecution to stop? 2Tim 3:12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. If I pray for persecution to stop, will I be praying for less godliness?
Does Christianity flourish in a religiously free society? Mat 5:11 Blessed are ye, when [men] shall revile you, and persecute [you], and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Are we blessed more greatly when we are persecuted or not persecuted?
Does the Lord use persecution to weed out the tares? Matt 4:17 And have no root in themselves, and so endure but for a time: afterward, when affliction or persecution ariseth for the word's sake, immediately they are offended.
Will your vote be based on comfortable Christianity? If you vote based on persecution prevention, what does that say about your faith in Rom: 8: 35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? [shall] tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
I know that the Lord appoints our leaders so I hope that my prayer will be "thy will be done" for the sake of His Kingdom.
Joy in TX
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Re: Letter from a Worldview Weekend Speaker and Future Prisoner
| Posted On: 11/29/07 10:44:00 AM |
Age 27, TX |
Thought provoking, yet I will always wander why Christians are so pro-Huckabee while not even considering Ron Paul. Look at Huckabee's views on abortion. Then compare them to Ron Paul's. Whose are more Biblical???
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Re: Letter from a Worldview Weekend Speaker and Future Prisoner
| Posted On: 11/29/07 10:30:49 AM |
Age 99999, WI |
Great article!
Reminds me of Franky Schaeffer's book: "A Modest Proposal"
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Re: Letter from a Worldview Weekend Speaker and Future Prisoner
| Posted On: 11/29/07 08:48:57 AM |
Age 61, MO |
I would like to quote part of Patricky Henry's "Give me liberty of give me death" speech. As you read, replace the words "British Monarchy" with whatever words you wish to describe a runamok U.S. government: "I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided, and that is the lamp of experience. I know of no way of judging the future but by the past. And judging by the past, I wish to know what there has been in the conduct of the British ministry for the last ten years that justifies those hopes which gentlemen have been pleased to solace themselves and the house? Is it that insidious smile with which our petition has been lately received? Trust it not, sir; it will prove a snare to your feet. Suffer not yourselves to be betrayed with a kiss.
Ask yourselves how this gracious reception of our petition comports with those warlike preparations which cover our waters and darken our land. Are fleets and armies necessary to a work of love and reconciliation? Have we shown ourselves so unwilling to be reconciled that force must be called in to win back our love? Let us not deceive ourselves, sir. These are the implements of war and subjugation - the last arguments to which kings resort. I ask gentlemen, sir, what means this martial array, if its purpose be not to force us to submission? Can gentlemen assign any other possible motive for it? Has Great Britain any enemy in this quarter of the world to call for all this accumulation of navies and armies?
No, sir, she has none. They are meant for us: They can be meant for no other. They are sent over to bind and rivet upon us those chains which the British ministry have been so long forging. And what have we to oppose to them? Shall we try argument? Sir, we have been trying that for the last ten years. Have we anything new to offer upon the subject? Nothing. We have held the subject up in every light of which it is capable, but it has been all in vain.
Shall we resort to entreaty and humble supplication? What terms shall we find that have not been already exhausted? Let us not, I beseech you, sir, deceive ourselves longer. Sir, we have done everything that could be done to avert the storm which is now coming on. We have petitioned - we have remonstrated - we have supplicated - we have prostrated ourselves before the throne, and have implored its interposition to arrest the tyrannical hands of the ministry and Parliament. Our petitions have been slighted; our remonstrances have produced additional violence and insult; our supplications have been disregarded; and we have been spurned, with contempt, from the foot of the throne.
In vain, after these things, may we indulge the fond hope of peace and reconciliation. There is no longer any room for hope. If we wish to be free - if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending - if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained - we must fight! I repeat it, sir, we must fight! An appeal to arms and to the God of Hosts is all that is left us!" Unfortunately, I thik we who read and participate in the discussions here at Worldview Weekend are a small minority. George Cancilla
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Re: Letter from a Worldview Weekend Speaker and Future Prisoner
| Posted On: 11/29/07 08:34:28 AM |
Age 35, TX |
All that just to give Huckabee a plug? Why not back a candidate who can defeat Hillary and also be the best for our country by following the constitution as our founding fathers originally intended? Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate who will obey the limitations imposed by the constitution. All other candidates are for big government micromanaging our lives. If you're so hot fire for Huckabee, then you obviously haven't checked all your facts about him.
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Re: Letter from a Worldview Weekend Speaker and Future Prisoner
| Posted On: 11/29/07 08:28:06 AM |
Age 50, MN |
What a sad, sick article. If a liberal had written this about life under a totalitarian Christian regime President, (which they may try to paint Huckabee as) we would cry outrage, slander and point out the unfairness and ridiculousness of it - and rightly so. We don't need hyperbole and outrageous exageration to make our point in the public square - when you write stuff like this it makes me believe you can't be taken seriously on other issues and you give the liberals and the world plenty of ammunition to prove that we're all wackos, like they want to believe.
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