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Re: Jesus Just Wants to Give You a Hug?
Posted On: 11/28/07 12:38:13 PM Age 57, CO
I agree, and on the other end Christian rock sounds like a train wreck. Often the music in churches is ear-splitting loud and has no discernable melody. I no longer listen to Christian music stations for these reasons.
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Re: Jesus Just Wants to Give You a Hug?
Posted On: 11/28/07 12:17:26 PM Age 57, MN
Good one, Todd. I have to admit that sometimes I feel almost embarassed at listening to some of this music because although the words are about love, the sounds, groans and tones are suggestive of erotic love and I feel uncomfortable and that shouldn't be the case when listening to Christian music. It makes one wonder if the Christian music writers are trying so hard to compete with the world that they incorporate many of the secular music world's "ways?" into their music before discerning what they might be conveying to their listeners. It's a good reminder to pray for discernment (and spiritual maturity)for these gifted people. Also, for those who think they can justify some of this music by calling it love or a higher love, think about the immense love that you have for your children and then try to imagine singing to them with some of this stuff...............signed, still grateful for all of the wonderful Christian music out there......T.L.
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Re: Jesus Just Wants to Give You a Hug?
Posted On: 11/28/07 11:36:16 AM Age 42, PA
What's wrong with a hug? I attend a Messianic Synagogue, so I don't know what music has invaded your church. When I grew ups church songs were "The Old Rugged Cross", "When the roll is called up yonder", etc. I would encourage you to read the Psalms for itself. David praised God for nemurous reasons and was unashamed of dancing and lifting his hands in worship. The baptist church where I grew up frowns on such "emotionalism", and don't even think about singing "in the spirit". My guess is that Todd Friel would have a problem with that two. I don't think that Todd and David would attend the same "church".
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    Posted On: 11/30/07 02:31:24 PMAge 44, KY
    Excellent point! Some "Christian Pop/Rock" music isn't for singing by the congregation, but rather is a tool for evangelizing and teaching. I loath Rap music and Hip-Hop, but if a song writer/performer can use this music to reach and witness to those who are not followers of Yahushua Hammashiach, then I say go for it. Is everyone here not aware that David wrote Psalms in the "contemporary" form of the day!?! And yes, David was thought to be out there, for his time, when it came to worshiping the Father YHWH! I think there are far more pressing issues within the body of folks who call themselves 'Christian' than how you worship, that need to be addressed. In fact some of the "Old Music" is so dry and depressing, it amazes me that anyone would offer it up to our Father or the Son or the Holy Spirit as worship offering. I suspect that the "Amen" section here are the "Men" that stand around like knots on a log during worship service, who if they do sing, it isn't above a whisper and that doesn't change regardless of the kind of music being sung. We serve a living god, so our worship should be alive and emotion filled. If you aren't excited about the promises the Father YHWH and Yahushua Hammashiach have made about what they have done for us and what they promises, awaits us in the Millennium Kingdom, then you obviously don't know the Father YHWH, the Son Yahushua Hammashiach or the Holy Spirit, and you need to put your nose in the Bible and devote a lot more time to study! By the way, the Father's name isn't "God" or "The LORD", it is YHWH. And, the Son's name isn't "Jesus", but rather 'Yahushua Hammashiach' or if you prefer Aramaic, then 'Yeshua Hammashiach'. The name "Jesus" was invented in the 1620's just prior to the 1st revision of the King James Bible. So when He said Ask in MY NAME, you can be certain it wasn't "Jesus" He was talking about! If the world can call, Islam's god's name: 'Allah' and the Buddhist god's name: "Buddha", then why must we refer to the only true god as the generic term of "God" or "The Lord", and why must we make up a name for His son; Yahushua Hammashiach, which means - 'Yahu is Salvation the Messiah'. Do any of you theologians know what "Jesus" means... Nothing! It has not meaning, they made it up, loosely basing it on the Latin transliteration of the Greek name for Yahushua, with the Latin form was "Iouses". When the letter "J" was invented in the 1620's, they transliterated the name, "Iouses" by dropping the 'Io' and replacing it with a "J" ("J" is supposed to be a masculine letter, thus all men's names staring with an "I" or "Y" were now spelled with a "J" in it place, thus "Iames" became "James" and so forth. I hate leaving rabbits un-chased! Mark
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Re: Jesus Just Wants to Give You a Hug?
Posted On: 11/28/07 11:04:31 AM Age 43, TX
First let me say that I'm a man and I strongly disagree with your article. The article is totally based on opinion (and emotions) and not the Word of God. The greatest commandment is to "Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength." Please do a word study on the range of meanings and uses of the words translated "Love" in both the OT and the NT of this qoute. Part of that meaning is affection. While I agree that much contemporary music is lacking in doctrine, it doesn't have to be an "either or" issue.
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Re: Jesus Just Wants to Give You a Hug?
Posted On: 11/28/07 10:36:17 AM Age 65, NE
Amen. I don't need a hug. I need a Rock, an Anchor, and a King.
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Re: Jesus Just Wants to Give You a Hug?
Posted On: 11/28/07 10:25:55 AM Age 48, CA
As the wife of a pastor, I heartily agree with this article. There are some very good songs out there that are contemporary, such as Chris Tomlin's "How Great Is Our God". The words are worshipful and draw me to the throne of our Savior. However, there are songs now that are so sappy - one in particular that talks about "give me one magnificent obsession - to know and follow hard after you". Follow hard? What in the world does that mean? It makes no sense. As a product of the "Jesus Movement" of the early 70's, I was in Southern California at they heyday of Contemporary Christian Music. The songs of the Maranatha groups such as Mustard Seed Faith, Debbie and Ernie, Parable, Keith Green, etc. were all scripturally based and reverent. Now, most worship songs are fluff, and sadly, churches place too much emphasis on the harmonies of a worship band rather than the teaching of the Word of God. There is something wrong when a church allows 45 minutes of singing and 15 minutes of Bible teaching. As I approach 50 (eek!) I now have a great respect and admiration for the hymns that I so flippantly disregarded earlier in my Christian walk. I love the words of these old standards now, and have tried to teach my children to honor and admire these hymns of ages past.
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Re: Jesus Just Wants to Give You a Hug?
Posted On: 11/28/07 10:19:36 AM Age 46, FL
Sorry Todd, If it pleases the Lord that I can sing "Jesus, lover of my soul" to Him, then I will sing it over and over. I want to continue my agape relationship with Him, until He calls me. This isn't about being a Macho Man or "men, don't shed no tears".
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Re: Jesus Just Wants to Give You a Hug?
Posted On: 11/28/07 09:58:59 AM Age 49, MO
AMEN!!! THANK YOU!!! I can hardly stand going to church anymore, and I've been in church all my life! And I'm in the Bible Belt! I believe most of our pastors need to take heed to all the verses in Jeremiah that start out with 'Woe to the Shepherds..'!
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Re: Jesus Just Wants to Give You a Hug?
Posted On: 11/28/07 09:07:46 AM Age 38, WI
Todd's article represents the extreme view of the contemporary worship movement. I would agree that a lack of balance will eventually hurt a congregation, but as with everything in life, it seems that once the pendulum has been stuck so far in one direction (dry liturgical hymns in King James English, but with great theology), that it has now swung all the way over the other side (worship songs that stirs emotion and little theology). You see these types of swings throughout biblical and church history, but the pendulum eventually will end up back in the middle (biblical worship) again where it belongs. BTW Todd, love the Way of the Master training! It’s the hallmark of our personal evangelism training at our church! Pastor John Oscar Evangelism Pastor Prayer House Assembly of God
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Re: Jesus Just Wants to Give You a Hug?
Posted On: 11/28/07 09:01:15 AM Age 73, ID
Nauseous and unscriptural. The generic "you" defines no one and can mean whatever or whoever the singer wishes. Wiccans or agnostics, etc in a church service can freely insert the title/name of their diety, get away with it and laugh at the sloppy agape unlearned "christians". YOU does not get it.
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  1. Re: Re: Jesus Just Wants to Give You a Hug?
    Posted On: 11/30/07 02:50:40 PMAge 44, KY
    Kinda like using the generic "God" and "the Lord" as the name of the Great I am! Just insert your god of choice in there and everything is cool, right? "God" isn't a name, it is a race of being(s)with supernatural powers and intellect. And "Jesus" is a made up name, by the folks who did the 1st revision of the King James Bible. "Yahushua" or "Yeshua" Hammashiach is the Son's name. The name "Jesus" first appeared in 1629 when the 1st revision of the King James Bible was published, before then, it was 'Iouses', which is the Latin name for the Savior. At best, the name "Jesus" is a sloppy transliteration of the Latin name for Yahushua. And "Christ" isn't the Savior's last name, but rather His title. Saying "Jesus Christ" is grammatically incorrect, it should be "Christ Jesus" or "Jesus the Christ". The name above all names, isn't "Jesus", but rather "Yahushua Hammashiach" or "Yeshua Hammashiach". Just trying to put it into prespective, with regards to your comments. Mark
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