Re: The Lynching Date is Set
| Posted On: 11/24/07 04:04:54 PM |
Age 59, CT |
Were the upcoming conference the only signficant item on the geo-political landscape I'd be concerned. But the fact that it's wedged amidst and alongside other significant items related to the defacing of God's people and purposes - is beyond concerning. To think that Abraham's own Hebron is a bartering chit is unimaginable. Were we to poke the Creator directly in the eye the consequences couldn't be more predictable. These are momentous days and times; truly a season that calls for vigilant watching. May God bless and bring peace to Jerusalem!
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Re: The Lynching Date is Set
| Posted On: 11/16/07 04:51:28 AM |
Age 41, FL |
I'm still amazed at the self-proclaimed "christians" who are anti-Israel and anti-Semitic. The problem here is not with Israel, it's with some who either haven't repented of their sins and put their trust in the Savior, Jesus Christ, as the propitiation for their sins, or that they're just ignorant of the basic Bible references to Israel and God's view of Israel. Read the Bible again, not putting your own personal modern viewpoints into what the Bible actually Says. You'll be surprised at how much hullabaloo you believe that isn't true or Scriptural.
Personally, we support Israel, period, and will continue to do so, because that is what we are to do, as Christians. To do otherwise is to chop ourselves from the vine.
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- Re: Re: The Lynching Date is Set
| Posted On: 11/23/07 01:48:00 PM | | Age 50, NETHERLANDS |
As you know their are among Christians different opinions in as to whether (natural) Israel will play a major roll in the near future as part of Gods eternal destinations, or not.
I personally believe the existence of (natural) Israel is of no importance at all.
Other Christians differ with me on that opinion. Well, I say, that fine!
However, I strongly object that I (and other agreeing with me) are called ANTI-ISRAEL en ANTISEMITEC!!!!
Now that's both a LIE and PROPAGANDA!
Now please, get real! Develop you own, mature opinions, and don't copy some Darbyist, narrow minded (a pleonasm!) doctrines which teach you, you may condemn your fellow Christians and label them as antisemitic and anti-Israel and, doing so, are cut off the vine!
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| Posted On: 11/20/07 06:16:58 PM | | Age 48, CA |
Showering Isreal with wonder weapons and giving them the go ahead to kill "Those evil Muslims" is not helping Isreal. Nor is commanding them to re take the promised land before its time. It is not Christian to tell the Isrealis that they are Gods people and that no matter how disobedient they are, God will grant them victory. Quite to the contrary, this is the very word of the false prohpets! Not once! Any time or anywhere, has a singe one of these neocon Christins ever advised Isreal to seek the Lords advice! Not once!All they do is claim that they are Gods chosen people and therfore can do no wrong, that we are to shower them with our wonder weapons and allow them to kill those evil Arabs.
False teaching!
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Re: The Lynching Date is Set
| Posted On: 11/14/07 01:25:41 PM |
Age 28, TX |
It seems to me that we ought to assist Israel and stand up for the nation's interests--from a legal standpoint, because we are allies. The issue with the Palestinians is not a matter of civil war; many of the agitators are immigrants from other nations, and they are being assisted by foreign nationals. Would we want our various allies to help us if we were being torn apart by immigrant terrorists? Most certainly; and this is precisely why we should help Israel. Jesus DID mention something about loving our neighbors as ourselves, yes?--Mrs. Pilgrim
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- Re: Re: The Lynching Date is Set
| Posted On: 11/19/07 09:03:07 AM | | Age 48, CA |
First, it should not be possible to terrorise a Christian wih physical violence so anybody who cries out like thgis has a weak faith at best or a false one at worst.
Second, the nation we know as Isreal today is not the Isreal of the Bible. It is a secular godless socialist state where 2/3 of the people consider themselves Jews by birth and not by faith.
Third, This secualr socialist state was founded by the same terrorism they now claim to be a victim of. Conclusion: If you believe the Biblical Prohpecy of a re instituted nation of Isreal, then this same Prophecy also declares that this nation is in for soe rough times to say it mildly. God will deal with his people and what he has in store for them is not for Isreal to continue in thier current disobedient ways protected by all of the wonder weapons we can give them.
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| Posted On: 11/17/07 12:18:40 PM | | Age 50, NETHERLANDS |
You mentioned: we are allies. What exacty do you mean? The US with only a small percentage born again Christians allied with natural Israel with maybe even a less percentage born again Christians?
I will tell you who my allies are, mrs Pelgrim. My allies are my fellow believers in Christ. Whether Jews or Palestinian, American or Dutch.
Do you know only a remnant of Israel will be saved? Not all (natural) Israel. Allies? With the majority as unsaved people?
Do you believe God will protect Israel?
Then why sending for billions of dollars of weapons to Israel? Some faith!
God bless, Joop
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- Re: Re: The Lynching Date is Set
| Posted On: 11/16/07 08:56:20 AM | | Age 48, CA |
2/3 of all Isrealis claim to to Jewish by blood and not by faith. Isreal is and will suffer because of it's state of disobedience. To proclaim that Isreal is always right and needs to always win is unBiblical. All the wonder weapons we can give them will not save them from the consequences of thier disobedience and to support them int their current state and attempt to preserve the status quo is not Biblical. The same Prophecy which predicted the return of the Jews also precicts a massive attack agaisnt them where 2/3 of all the jews will be killed. With the current attitude of Zionism, I never would have guessed that Isreal would actually be asking for it.
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Re: The Lynching Date is Set
| Posted On: 11/14/07 09:30:29 AM |
Age 61, MO |
Here is a link which I think gives a fair perspective of the Israel Palestine problem: http://www.rense.com/general79/prospec.htm
It is not a long read. George Cancilla
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Re: The Lynching Date is Set
| Posted On: 11/13/07 02:36:13 PM |
Age 61, MO |
"Not as though the Word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel." (Romans 9:6) This "Israel" is Christ, not a political nation. The original Hebrew nation was merely the shadow of the true inheritance in Christ. Just as the Old Covenant Holy Temple was merely the shadow of the True, which is Christ. When Christ inherited Judah, we inherited the land in Him. A spiritual inheritance which many simply do not comprehend. And all nations, Jew and Gentile alike, only as they are joined to the Lord, reign with Him in that inheritance. Israel, in God's eyes, is not a plot of earth in the middle east. Christ is the Israel of God. George Cancilla
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| Posted On: 11/14/07 01:19:38 PM | | Age 28, TX |
So, Mr. Cancilla, is it your opinion that the third return of the Jews to a geographical Israel after a tribulation, as prophesied in the Bible, was only metaphorical--and not referring to the actual events that transpired as a result of the Holocaust (including the return of their sons and daughters by the Gentiles)? Is it also your opinion that the hatred of Jews by ALL--count 'em--ALL godless and/or evil empires is just pure coincidence?--Mrs. Pilgrim
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| Posted On: 11/19/07 09:11:11 AM | | Age 48, CA |
Call it an attack or whatever you want but I challenge you. Where does Christ call for us to build a massive military machine using money we don't really have and to bomb the world into submission? Where in the Bible is "Democracy" AKA the institution of our persissive society ever spoken of favorably much less called for?
Open your Bible and show me!
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| Posted On: 11/15/07 08:14:37 PM | | Age 61, MO |
Book, chapter, and verse please. George Cancilla
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| Posted On: 11/20/07 06:18:44 PM | | Age 48, CA |
My point exactly. There is not a single book or verse where the will of the people is ever spoken of favorably.
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Re: The Lynching Date is Set
| Posted On: 11/13/07 01:45:10 PM |
Age 48, CA |
Once again you over rate democracy. Can you please open your Bible ans show me where "The will of the people" AKA Democracy is EVER spoken of favorably much less called for? Every time the will of the people is mentioned in the Bible it is in a negative light. So, I place little value on Democracy. As the book of Judges sums up it's period "Everbody did what was right and wrong in their own eyes" That gdoless socialist stae we call Isreal today is in the smae state of disobedience it was in at any other time in it's history when God delivered them into the hands of their enemy. You neocns and you wonder weapons cannot save Isreal or any othr nation and preserve it in its state of rebellion.
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| Posted On: 11/14/07 01:21:28 PM | | Age 28, TX |
Nice way to demonstrate how REAL Christians should behave: using unmerited invective and attacks, rather than gentle reproof and instruction. I submit that this kind of behavior is another stumbling block before the unbelievers.--Mrs. Pilgrim
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| Posted On: 11/19/07 05:06:07 PM | | Age 48, CA |
Since when do neocon christians who advocate bombing the world into submission to their gospel of permissivenss ever advocated Gentle reproach? You preachers of this gospel of bombs & bullets are in no position to complain about being attacked.
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| Posted On: 11/19/07 09:58:38 AM | | Age 48, CA |
To expose false teaching is not a stumbling bock. There is no Gospel of Bobs & bullets. Anyone who teaches that there is is a false teacher.
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| Posted On: 11/19/07 09:06:20 AM | | Age 48, AL |
So your way is to talk about "Us good Christians" Vs "Those evil Muslims" and how Christ commands us to bomb them into our persmissivness thinly disguised as grace?
Or those "Good Isrealis" who need our wonder weapons to kill those evil Muslims?
Who here is the stumbling block?
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- Israel: God's Israel
| Posted On: 11/16/07 02:59:43 PM | | Age 57, OR |
Yes Mrs. Pilgrim. Your words definately have merit! If I were to dare cast a shadow upon Israel, I would fear for my life lest the sun(Son) should smite me! So it is, I think, as with these Job's Comforters that now surround Israel. Did not God choose a small planet on the edge of a vast galaxy to impress us with His lack of 'size-consciousness'? Has He not always chosen small, insignificant, slightly soiled and outright shamefull persons, places or things to display His Glory and His Mercy? God will Laugh at their devices; The Great I Am will giggle and all the mighty men will QUAKE. All the 'experts' will gibber incoherently and the 'kings' will scrabble around naked eating grass like oxen. Yet He will have peace in Jerusalem! He has said so. So we had better posess ourselves in fear and trembling and pray for that end. It will happen and it will NOT be a peace of compromise. It will be a peace of CONQUEST by our Mighty Lord Jesus! PGW
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- Re: Israel: God's Israel
| Posted On: 11/20/07 06:12:29 PM | | Age 48, CA |
The final victory will be Christ himself stiking down the nations and ruling with a rod of Iron. Not the seculalr socialist state we now call Isreal with American made wonder weapons.
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