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Doug Pagitt. Heretic or Not?
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Re: Doug Pagitt. Heretic or Not?
Posted On: 10/26/07 09:42:42 PM Age 66, OH
Heretic of course. Why would there even be a question. His own mouth condems him. If the speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
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Re: Doug Pagitt. Heretic or Not?
Posted On: 10/26/07 09:20:54 PM Age 53, TX
Clearly a heretic. Todd I was waiting for you to ask him if he was a good person. http://www.impactmidland.com
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Re: Doug Pagitt. Heretic or Not?
Posted On: 10/26/07 08:48:06 PM Age 27, NY
Heretic. He is horribly twisting and even ignoring Scripture.
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Re: Doug Pagitt. Heretic or Not?
Posted On: 10/26/07 08:04:40 PM Age 43, TX
Heretic. Gal 1:8,9 'But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel than that which we have preached to you, let him be accursed (removed). As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel to you than that you have receieved, let him be accursed.' Paul wanted to so emphasize the importance of this that he stated it twice. We need to pray for the people of America to love the truth and not sell it for the false Emergent verbage emphasizing experiences. Jude warns us of these, 'sensual, having not the Spirit.' Psalm 82:2 'How long will you judge unjustly and accept the persons of the wicked?' God have mercy on us and remove them!
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Re: Doug Pagitt. Heretic or Not?
Posted On: 10/26/07 07:53:10 PM Age 27, PA
Ray Comfort's next tract: "What Emergents Believe." Open it up and there are 150 blank pages.
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Re: Doug Pagitt. Heretic or Not?
Posted On: 10/26/07 06:57:21 PM Age 48, IL
The definition of a HairyTick is a parasite that lives in the undergrowth of this world waiting to attach itself to an unsuspecting passerby inorder to suck the life blood out of that individual. Many who have been bitten have come down with a lime colored disease called liberalism of which there is only one known cure. It's called repenting and turning to the Jesus of the Bible, not the Jesus of Doug Pagitt's imagination.
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Re: Doug Pagitt. Heretic or Not?
Posted On: 10/26/07 06:21:08 PM Age 22, NJ
Heretic. Without question. He doesn't take the Word of God seriously at all. He might pay lipservice to its authority, but he doesn't really believe it, hence the "honey nailed to a tree" comment (appropriate). For him and other emergents, the Bible is a plaything... either that or a means to gain influence. "...hating even the garment polluted by the flesh."
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Re: Doug Pagitt. Heretic or Not?
Posted On: 10/26/07 05:24:01 PM Age 48, AZ
The early church fathers would have considered sola fides and sola scriptura as heresies as well. So what is your standard for determining the truth? If it is the Bible, then you contradict what the Bible says. What does the BIBLE call the pillar and foundation of truth? It's the Church (1 Tim 3:15), the bride of Christ, not the Bible, even though it is the inerrant inspired Word of God.
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  1. Your chuche will be judged by God and His word.
    Posted On: 05/26/09 01:05:55 AMAge 53, CA
    Whether your church is the bride of Christ will be determined by the Bible, the word of God. If you don't hold the truth as revealed in the Bible, you are no longer His church. Where I live, Stanton CA, there is a buddihist church; they say they are church, but they are not.
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  2. Re: Re: Doug Pagitt. Heretic or Not?
    Posted On: 10/27/07 05:19:49 PMAge 45, NJ
    Well that was a HUGE leap from this emergent hogwash to Sola Scriptura being heresy. What gives? ' Patrick Burwell / OnlyJesusSaves.com/ Evangelist@OnlyJesusSaves.com '
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What Irenaeus would say about Pagitt's words
Posted On: 10/26/07 03:59:49 PM Age 50, IL
By these words they entrap the more simple, and entice them, imitating our phraseology, that these [dupes] may listen to them the oftener; and then these are asked regarding us, how it is, that when they hold doctrines similar to ours, we, without cause, keep ourselves aloof from their company; and [how it is, that] when they say the same things, and hold the same doctrine, we call them heretics? When they have thus, by means of questions, overthrown the faith of any, and rendered them uncontradicting hearers of their own, they describe to them in private the unspeakable mystery of their Pleroma (their system of explanation). But they are altogether deceived, who imagine that they may learn from the Scriptural texts adduced by heretics, that [doctrine] which their words plausibly teach. For error is plausible, and bears a resemblance to the truth, but requires to be disguised; while truth is without disguise, and therefore has been entrusted to children. (Irenaeus "Against Heresies" approx 175AD)
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Re: Doug Pagitt. Heretic or Not?
Posted On: 10/26/07 03:50:20 PM Age 50, IL
He's clearly a heretic! I have read many of the church fathers; Justin Martyr, Polycarp, Ignatius and Irenaeus. These fathers were dealing with the same kind of Gnostic rubbish that we are dealing with. What most people don't know is that Gnosticism was a hodgepodge of thought combining, Judaism, Christianity and mythology along with any other thought that would keep the followers coming back for more to the so-called "enlightened ones". This sounds like the message of the emergent church. Most is made up off the top of their head and then gathered into an incomprehensible collection of meaningless buzzwords. Just listen to Pagitt try to explain what he means. It's like he's making it up as he goes trying to avoid being trapped in his own words. After reading the inspired word in comparison with the Apostolic Father's writings you begin to realize just how concisely the NT writers wrote (of course they did because they were under the inspiration of God Himself). Justin Martyr, Ignatius, Ireneaus were very tough on anyone who tried to hijack the pure Gospel. They would agree that Pagitt is a raving heretic and would worn believers to stay far away from him and remain true to the simple truths of the Gospel.
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