Re: Doug Pagitt. Heretic or Not?
| Posted On: 10/30/07 10:49:21 PM |
Age 27, SC |
Heretic.
By definition. I know that true definitions are not popular these days, but thank God truth is not determined by popularity.
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Re: Doug Pagitt. Heretic or Not?
| Posted On: 10/30/07 03:03:30 PM |
Age 62, FL |
Doug is a master of arrogant blather in much the same manner used by the former Yassir Arafat or the peculiar Ahmadinijad! They can never answer a question directly- they are too busy smirking and mocking. What a demonic little imp he is! Of course he is heretic- he is also trying to throw our words like Platonic and dualism thinking most of us are such dolts that would would not see what he was doing..or know what that was all about. Anyone who says Jesus died for nought (if all can be saved without him and there is no heaven or hell,) need to find a quiet place, contemplate their navels and be the good little universalists that they are!
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Re: Doug Pagitt. Heretic or Not?
| Posted On: 10/29/07 09:50:37 PM |
Age 41, FL |
Thanks Todd, once again, for a reality check.
There are so many who claim the title of pastor, minister, or reverend, just to make a living, without knowing the Master.
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Re: Doug Pagitt. Heretic or Not?
| Posted On: 10/29/07 10:25:24 AM |
Age 71, CANADA |
Pagitt's message is heresy. J. Gresham Machen who wrote the very controversial book "Liberalism or Christianty?" would likely take a similar approach to this subject; "The Emergent Church or Christianity?" because in many ways the two are very similar. They both claim "enlightenment" and they both engage in similar distortions, perversions, and definately preach "another" gospel. It seems "The Emergent Church" is an attempt to gain intelectual respectibility while still having the appearance of evangelical orthodoxy. Another parallel to this movement may be a former US President's attempts at founding a new "more tolerant" Baptist Denomination. It is the same slippery slope that the venerable Bishop J.C. Ryle and Charles Haddon Spurgeon warned their generations of at the turn of the 20th century. It is clearly a good example of what it means to be able to contend for the faith and to know what it is you believe and why, in the tradition of the Apostles, early Church Fathers and the Reformers and most importantly; from the pens and lips of the inspired writers of Holy Writ. Sola Scriptura!
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Re: Doug Pagitt. Heretic or Not?
| Posted On: 10/29/07 10:24:04 AM |
Age 71, CANADA |
Pagitt's message is heresy. J. Gresham Machen who wrote the very controversial book "Liberalism or Christianty?" would likely take a similar approach to this subject; "The Emergent Church or Christianity?" because in many ways the two are very similar. They both claim "enlightenment" and they both engage in similar distortions, perversions, and definately preach "another" gospel. It seems "The Emergent Church" is an attempt to gain intelectual respectibility while still having the appearance of evangelical orthodoxy. Another parallel to this movement may be a former US President's attempts at founding a new "more tolerant" Baptist Denomination. It is the same slippery slope that the venerable Bishop J.C. Ryle and Charles Haddon Spurgeon warned their generations of at the turn of the 20th century. It is clearly a good example of what it means to be able to contend for the faith and to know what it is you believe and why, in the tradition of the Apostles, early Church Fathers and the Reformers and most importantly; from the pens and lips of the inspired writers of Holy Writ. Sola Scriptura!
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Re: Doug Pagitt. Heretic or Not?
| Posted On: 10/29/07 10:23:11 AM |
Age 71, CANADA |
Pagitt's message is heresy. J. Gresham Machen who wrote the very controversial book "Liberalism or Christianty?" would likely take a similar approach to this subject; "The Emergent Church or Christianity?" because in many ways the two are very similar. They both claim "enlightenment" and they both engage in similar distortions, perversions, and definately preach "another" gospel. It seems "The Emergent Church" is an attempt to gain intelectual respectibility while still having the appearance of evangelical orthodoxy. Another parallel to this movement may be a former US President's attempts at founding a new "more tolerant" Baptist Denomination. It is the same slippery slope that the venerable Bishop J.C. Ryle and Charles Haddon Spurgeon warned their generations of at the turn of the 20th century. It is clearly a good example of what it means to be able to contend for the faith and to know what it is you believe and why, in the tradition of the Apostles, early Church Fathers and the Reformers and most importantly; from the pens and lips of the inspired writers of Holy Writ. Sola Scriptura!
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Re: Doug Pagitt. Heretic or Not?
| Posted On: 10/29/07 10:16:53 AM |
Age 71, CANADA |
Pagitt's message is heresey. J. Gresham Machen who wrote the very controversial book "Liberalism or Christianty?" would likely take a similar approach to this subject; "The Emergent Church or Christianity?" because in many ways the two are very similar. They both claim "enlightenment" and they both engage in similar distortions, perversions, and definately preach "another" gospel. It seems "The Emergent Church" is an attempt to gain intelectual respectibility while still having the appearance of evangelical orthodoxy. Another parallel to this movement may be Carter's and Clinton's attempts at founding a new "more tolerant" Baptist Denomination. It is the same slippery slope that Bishop J.C. Ryle and Charles Haddon Spurgeon warned there generation of at the turn of the 20th century. It is clearly a good example of what it means to be able to contend for the faith and to know what it is you believe and why, in the tradition of the Apostles, early Church Fathers and the Reformers and most importantly; from the pens and lips of the inspired writers of Holy Writ. Sola Scriptura!
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Re: Doug Pagitt. Heretic or Not?
| Posted On: 10/29/07 10:13:36 AM |
Age 71, CANADA |
Pagitt's message is heresey. J. Gresham Machen who wrote the very controversial book "Liberalism or Christianty?" would likely take a similar approach to this subject; "The Emergent Church or Christianity?" because in many ways the two are very similar. They both claim "enlightenment" and they both engage in similar distortions, perversions, and definately preach "another" gospel. It seems "The Emergent Church" is an attempt to gain intelectual respectibility while still having the appearance of evangelical orthodoxy. Another parallel to this movement may be Carter's and Clinton's attempts at founding a new "more tolerant" Baptist Denomination. It is the same slippery slope that Bishop J.C. Ryle and Charles Haddon Spurgeon warned there generation of at the turn of the 20th century. It is clearly a good example of what it means to be able to contend for the faith and to know what it is you believe and why, in the tradition of the Apostles, early Church Fathers and the Reformers and most importantly; from the pens and lips of the inspired writers of Holy Writ. Sola Scriptura!
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Re: Doug Pagitt. Heretic or Not?
| Posted On: 10/29/07 10:06:38 AM |
Age 71, CANADA |
HERETIC! J. Gresham Machen who wrote the very controversial book "Liberalism or Christianty?" would likely take a similar approach to this subject; "The Emergent Church or Christianity?" because in many ways the two are very similar. They both claim "enlightenment" and they both engage in similar distortions, perversions, and definately preach "another" gospel. It seems "The Emergent Church" is an attempt to gain intelectual respectibility while still having the appearance of evangelical orthodoxy. Another parallel to this movement may be Carter's and Clinton's attempts at founding a new "more tolerant" Baptist Denomination. It is the same slippery slope that Bishop J.C. Ryle and Charles Haddon Spurgeon warned there generation of at the turn of the 20th century. It is clearly a good example of what it means to be able to contend for the faith and to know what it is you believe and why, in the tradition of the Apostles, early Church Fathers and the Reformers and most importantly; from the pens and lips of the inspired writers of Holy Writ. Sola Scriptura!
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Re: Doug Pagitt. Heretic or Not?
| Posted On: 10/28/07 08:26:01 AM |
Age 59, MA |
Heretic, unequivocally. This is classic Universalism, shabbily wrapped, which every generation of the Church has been obliged to identify and rebuke. The Bible is clear that the Pagitts we will always have with us, so this is unremarkable; the far greater tragedy is the immense number of Biblically illiterate who listen to them. Jesus said, "You can enter God's Kingdom only through the narrow gate. The highway to hell is broad, and its gate is wide for the many who choose the easy way." Mt.7:13,NLT.
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