Re: CALLING EVIL GOOD AGAIN
| Posted On: 10/28/07 04:04:35 PM |
Age 52, CANADA |
Hey! Wake up! What is going on with those who are representing your churches? I am stunned to hear that Christian leaders can think of Iranian president Ahmadinejad to be anything but arrogant and many other adjectives not nice. But look at his face. For me, it is not the truth that I see in his eyes. It is not the truth that I hear from his mouth. How is it possible that some of your christian brothers praise this man? I saw him speak at Columbia University, read many of his speeches at the United Nations sessions. I think he is someone we should be afraid of. His goal is nothing less than conquering the world (with the nuclear)for Islam and preparing the throne for the Mahdi/Messiah/Savior. Of course, this Mahdi is not the Lord Jesus Christ. In the Revelation, it is written that when Israel and the world will ask for "Peace and security", it will happen. Haven't you noticed that "Islam" means Peace? I just hope and pray that the real followers of Christ won't be hypnotized or seduced by this man of evil.
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Re: CALLING EVIL GOOD AGAIN
| Posted On: 10/07/07 11:28:19 AM |
Age 64, OK |
Jan, I'll agree with you on the wcc. This is an insert to this article you can read all of it at.
© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com
THANK YOU R. KELLY
TESTING THE FAITH
Bush: All religions pray to 'same God'
'That's what I believe. I believe Islam is a great religion that preaches peace'
Posted: October 7, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern
All religions pray to 'same God'...
'That's what I believe. I believe Islam is a
great religion that preaches peace'
President George Bush has repeated his belief all religions, "whether they be Muslim, Christian, or any other
religion, prays to the same God" – an assertion that caused outrage among evangelical leaders when he said it in November 2003
Bush made the statement Friday in an interview with Al Arabiya reporter Elie Nakouzi.
Al Arabiya is Al Jazeerah's top competitor in the Mideast.
As the president and Nakouzi walked from the Oval Office to the Map Room in the White House residence, Nazouki asked, "But I want to tell you – and I hope this doesn't bother you at all – that in the Islamic world they think that President Bush is an enemy of Islam – that he wants to destroy their religion, what they believe in. Is that in any way true, Mr. President?"
"No, it's not," said Bush. "I've heard that, and it just shows [sic] to show a couple of things: One, that the radicals have done a good job of propagandizing. In other words, they've spread the word that this really isn't peaceful people versus radical people or terrorists, this is really about the America not liking Islam.
WELL I'VE REST BECOME A RADICAL
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Re: CALLING EVIL GOOD AGAIN
| Posted On: 10/04/07 02:23:13 PM |
Age 72, AR |
Evil is a word that should be avoided whenever possible. It is not defined in this article, and may be undefineable. It is a code word for certain people that means to the user "You should hate this because I hate it." and to the reader/listener "I will hate this because I am supposed to agree with this user." There is no thought involved at either end of the exchange. This is a powerful and urgent discussion that deserves adequate definition, meaning verbiage every reader will understand. As it stands, this article is raw and inflamatory vitriol without meaning or substantiation. It reads like a lawsuit, not an analysis of a situation or even an essay of advocacy.
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Re: CALLING EVIL GOOD AGAIN
| Posted On: 10/04/07 11:42:17 AM |
Age 62, WA |
With all due respect George calling this article a "hate article" is inaccurate and labeling it as such causes you to join the long line of those who would like to see Christianity and yes, God Himself, not to mention free speech and freedom of religion removed from our daily lives here in America.
In reading the article I didn't see any "hate" there but a genuine desire to understand why the NCC would promote and praise a man who has vowed to wipe us all off the face of the earth. I've read President Ahmadinijad's letters to President Bush and to the American people and I think until you have read those words straight from the man's own mind and pen you cannot possibly understand what true hate is. Yes, it is wrong to call evil good but the NCC has done just that. So, are we to blindly agree with the NCC or are we to remain silent on the subject so that we are not accused of writing hate articles?
I think we Christians have done both for far too long and it's time we took a stand, not only for what we believe in, but more importantly, it's time we took a stand for Jesus. After all, He took the cross for us.
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Pray for Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's Conversion
| Posted On: 10/04/07 11:08:05 AM |
Age 21, MO |
I am going to pray for a massive Saul to Paul type conversion of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. What a powerful testimony to our Great God. Saul was a massive persecutor of the church and wanted every single person that claimed Christ to be killed. Much like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad wants with everyone who doesn't claim Allah is God and Muhammad is his prophet. Yet God chose Paul as the primary instrument to bring the gospel to the gentiles. What if God did the same with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad towards Muslims. I am going to intercede and plead mercy to God for the soul of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. I ask all of you to join me in this. Make it a massive church wide plea to the Father. Don't relent until Mahmoud Ahmadinejad comes to the saving knowledge of Jesus Christ.
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Re: CALLING EVIL GOOD AGAIN
| Posted On: 10/04/07 10:20:41 AM |
Age 48, MI |
Religous, appears to mean devoted to higher power and devoted 100% to whatever you believe that higher power wants. Totally a man made concept, in my opinion.
As a born again christian, I have from when I first received Jesus's sacrifice for my sins, refused to be religious. I believe Jesus was not religious and specifically condemned the religious order when he was here on earth. Religion just appears to me to be another attempt by man to permote his own self justification. Religion has always been big business, that is why so many religious people seem to not believe anything in the Bible but what parts agree with their woorld view and their drive to make a ransom off the poor and ignorant. Jesus from my understanding did not come to earth to die for our sins to make us religious. He came so we could have a personal relationship with our creator.
Religion leads to such things as worshiping man, man's interpretations, it exhaults man's version of events and belief over God's word, and leads to sincere belief in doctrines of demons and devils.
There will be a lot of sincere religious people in hell.
I believe we were told not to encourage anyone with a false doctrine, as then were would be partakers in their deception, which will turn and lead many from the simple trust of the Gospel.
It was a very clever trick of the Devil to create a religion such as Islam, that has at its very core belief the murder and hatred of anyone who does not believe their creed. Especially, the apple of God's eye, the Jewish people.
THere will never be peace between christians and Jewish people and Islam. Islam at its core is the belief in the devils attempt to blind people to the truth and destroy anyone who has received God's blessing.
As for protecting the Jewish people from murders, it all comes down to the question first asked of Cain to God-am I my brother's keeper? THe answer then, as now is yes. Unfortunately, in this we are destined to utterly fail, as all the world is predicted to turn its back again on God's chosen people. Woe to our country as we continue with religous people leading our country into pushing the Isreali people to divide the land that belongs to God and that he gave to the Jewish people as an inheratance forever.
If you believe who Jesus said he was and you believe his love message as set out in God's word, you cannot in any fashion support and encourage those who believe their demon god is telling them to destry the apple of God's eye. In fact we have a duty to vigourously oppose them at everyturn. Our leaders may proclaim Islam as a religion of peace, but it does not change the fact that Islam's main goal is to kill all Jews and Infidels and is directly opposed to God's opinion as set forth in his word. Whether or not they are religious is not the point. The point is where are the people being led to follow a doctrine of demons going to spend eternity? It is our commission to show them God's only way to have eternial life through his son, not say such other demon inspired things as there are many ways to heaven, there is not.
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Re: CALLING EVIL GOOD AGAIN
| Posted On: 10/04/07 09:32:49 AM |
Age 48, CA |
The ultimate act of calling evil good are you neocons claiming we need to bomb them into our godless ways. Craig, Foley, Gingrich, and many other rightwing leaders are proof that the religious right are the same godless perverts as the godless left. They only pay lip service to Christian values. And now yoiu want to bomb them into our godless ways?
Before you scream about "Thoise evil Muslims"
Our own gangs shoot more of us
Our own drug dealers poison more of us
Our own aborion clinics kill more of our babies.
Our own sexual imorality infests more of us than any of the guns, chemical weapons, or biological weapons any of "Those evil Muslims' Might have. Our own godlessness / hypocrasy is a bigger threat to us than anybody from the outside.
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Re: CALLING EVIL GOOD AGAIN
| Posted On: 10/04/07 09:11:55 AM |
Age 59, SC |
One of your best ever articles. Sorry if people don't like your "tone" when you don't make nice, but there is much about the sin and snares of this fallen world that isn't nice. Seductively evil men acting upon Satanic delusions and temptations to seek their own advancement are not nice. The Bible commands us to face up to deceit, bring it to light, and call Satan by name. Speaking the truth in love is still involves speaking the truth and the truth is often offensive to those who wish to live in a warm fuzzy world of half-truth. Jesus spoke the truth without concerns about being politically correct or offending the deluded, so you are following closely in His footsteps. As we said in the sixties. Right on, girl, tell it like it is--Isaiah did, and as a result we are warned, whether we care to listen, or not.
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Re: CALLING EVIL GOOD AGAIN
| Posted On: 10/03/07 11:35:08 PM |
Age 70, MO |
Jan Markell Is right on track,these people don`t want to convert us,they want to destroy us.This man makes Hitler look like a boy scout.How could any group of people that call them selfs christans trust this man?I will ans.my own question.They aren`t really christans.They just have a form of religion,but they don`t know or follow God`s word.God have mercy on all of us if they have their way in this matter.If their spirit agreed with God`s Spirit,they would know better.
Yours in Christ,
Berry Cecil.
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Re: CALLING EVIL GOOD AGAIN
| Posted On: 10/03/07 10:19:50 PM |
Age 51, IA |
The tone of the article, and the tone of the posted response, are both unnecessarily vitriolic. It is possible to have a reasoned discussion about geopolitics and the Christian viewpoint without name-calling. It is evil to call evil good, and a greater evil to equate religiousity and Christianity. These are valid points. It is true that it is insane to believe lies, but it is usually unprofitable to speak in those terms, as they are unnecessarily personally offensive. Let's return to the land of civilized discourse while sticking to our principles.
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- Re: Re: CALLING EVIL GOOD AGAIN
| Posted On: 10/04/07 09:19:29 AM | | Age 47, MO |
Sir:
I want to take issue with your quote: "It is true that it is insane to believe lies, but it is usually unprofitable to speak in those terms, as they are unnecessarily personally offensive."
Since sin is pride in ourselves and scriptures are personally offensive, I don't understand what you think a civil discourse will accomplish. I think this may come from a view of love that is to accept and tolerate everything, to offend no one, and to live a placid comotose self centered life.
Friend, faith requires risk and risk requires action. Therefore, real love is to be obedient to Christ's call to GO, SPEAK, PREACH in season and out.
To die to self is to not care how the truth is perceived but rather to be faithful to preach it- BOLDLY so that it does cut thru to marrow! John
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