Re: Three Wise Fools
| Posted On: 05/26/07 02:20:50 PM |
Age 27, OK |
OK... and then the man ficked the switch, and the light came on, and the wise men shut up, because they were given a clear demonstration that electricity is real. Flick the switch, Ray! Give us a clear demonstration that your religion is correct!
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Re: Three Wise Fools
| Posted On: 05/26/07 02:07:30 PM |
Age 36, MA |
Is this supposed to be self satire?
Observation of the world is where science starts. Scientists believe in plenty of things they cannot see, dark matter for instance.
Atheists point out the contradictions in the bible for two reasons. First, because religious people say there aren't any and second because there is no way to scientifically test whether there is a god.
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Re: Three Wise Fools
| Posted On: 05/26/07 01:29:49 PM |
Age 50, FL |
Are your regular readers just not that bright?
Does this pass for any sort of convincing argument about anything?
You are clogging the internet "tubes" with nonsense.
Nance
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Re: Three Wise Fools
| Posted On: 05/24/07 04:12:19 PM |
Age 40, MN |
This is a confusing analogy. If these men are wise, why do they reject the phenomena on display for them (e.g. the lamp turning on and off on demand from a switch)? It's not is if they are being asked to believe in something without a physical demonstration, here, so how does this map to atheism? Maybe this analogy isn't about what I assumed -- the 'wise men' as metaphor for atheists?
In the real world, atheists and Christians alike accept all manner of assertions about phenomena they can't "see"; sight isn't the only way we perceive, and direct perception isn't the only way we accept demonstrations of correlation and causality. An atheist, or a Christian, or a Buddhist has no trouble with the demonstration of a lamp, even though he cannot "see" the electrons that make things happen. This is especially true when the physics are explained, and other intsruments brought in that can detect and measure electrical current -- allowing atheist, Christian and Buddhist alike to "see" electricity via instrumentation.
As it is, this analogy seems completely backwards, apparently (?) suggesting that atheists will reject natural phenomena because of errors in the... user manual??? My experience with atheists is that the demonstration *is* the thing, and without demonstrative proof -- physical proof, as you offered here -- they won't believe, typos in the manual or no.
Or am I all wrong and this is not an allegorical rendering of atheism after all?
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Re: Three Wise Fools
| Posted On: 05/22/07 05:08:09 PM |
Age 32, OK |
How many more witnesses does the world need? I went through my bible last few years reading before and at the time of Jesus's birth and life here on earth how many people witnessed his life and the incredible number after his resurrection to today. A godly high priest and they have to be right to be chosen to light incense holy of holys John's daddy testified and prophecied at Johns circumsion. The shephards spoke, the wise men asking what is written to Herod and his court,both Anna and Simeon were valid witnesses respected individuals elders. Even the scribes Jesus spoke with entering adulthood at 12 were amazed at his knowledge,the acts of the father he did, the miracles bigger than the prophets before him,even foreign soldier living amoung them recognized the masters power and authorityno discredit even when he was tried.The very priests that paid the lie to continue to the Roman guard how many of their people did they harm in that decision. The many lives that have been changed since is unnumerable. Not even George Washington or Abe Lincoln have such proofs of honorable character and truth. Yet the blind still refuse to see.
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Re: Three Wise Fools
| Posted On: 05/21/07 10:39:52 PM |
Age 56, OR |
AHH. A 'Ray' of brilliance to 'Comfort' the Christian fools that call God Father. Thanks PGW.
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- Re: Re: Three Wise Fools
| Posted On: 05/24/07 05:55:30 PM | | Age 57, AZ |
Should we throw the switch?No,Ray made us up out of extremely dry straw and we'll surely burn ourselves up.A better name for this would have been The Three Straw Men.
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- Re: Re: Re: Three Wise Fools
| Posted On: 11/11/07 09:54:39 PM | | Age 51, CA |
Thomas Edison didn't invent electricity anymore than Ben Franklin. Nikola Tesla and George Westinghouse, not Edison get the credit for the modern day AC power grids that Edison unsuccessfully tried to prevent from being built. Unless Ray Comfort is supporting open theism any comparison of Edison to God creates too many controversial issues. Thomas Edison did invent many things like the first practical electric bulb, motion pictures, and the phonograph. Nikola Tesla invented many devices used in radio that later aided in the development of television. I am getting rather tired of Ray Comfort's dumbed down history of the RMS Titanic and now his dumbed down history of the development of electricity. His dumbed down mechanical gospel message is getting rather old as well. Ray Comfort makes me miss Francis Schaeffer and C. S. Lewis. This story is pure strawman and proves nothing. I note that the book appears to have been delayed in publishing. I assume someone realized the book had issues that need to be fixed before it was published? Hopefully when the book is finally published this story of the Three Wise Fools will be either missing or improved to the point that it is not a strawman of Atheist. For the record, I am a Christian but I am tired of the dumbing down problem that appears to exist in Christendom now days. Too many so-called Christian books published now days is a waste of time to read. I strongly suggest following C. S. Lewis advise and read classic Christian authors like C. H. Spurgeon, C. S. Lewis, Francis Schaeffer, Jonathan Edwards, Charles Hodge, etc. rather than the mindless trash mass produced by too many modern day so-called Christian writers.
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