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Waking up Grandpa
Posted On: 09/11/08 09:32:44 AM Age 46, NEW ZEALAND
Good article, yes we do need to open our mouths as well as walk with people (like Jesus in Luke 24)...however, I think if I was trying to save grandpa from the fire, I'd think, maybe even quickly pray about the most 'effective' way to do that. The point being, what will work best, given my primary motive is to get him away from the fire... not to just tell him the truth about the fire. I'm with the apostle Paul...i will try different approaches, be all things so I might 'save' some... I think grandpa will respond better if I have healthy trust relationship with him, don't you? how would he respond to a total stranger shining the torch light in his face?...We are about the same thing! thankyou God Bless.
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Re: Quit Inviting People to Church
Posted On: 04/23/07 11:39:07 PM Age 31, FM
"Today is the day for relationship evangelism" No. Jesus says, "today is the day for salvation." The assemblu is for the breaking of bread/fellowship and the equiping of the saints. The assembly is not for unbelievers -- it's purpose does not make sense to them. If a non believer, though, happens upon the assmbly, the Bible says that the Holy Spirit will convict them of their sin and they will [fall to their knees/or fall prostrate in the fear of the Lord]. Good article, and much contrary to the seeker sensitive/emerging church movement. Just go forward in the love of Christ, speaking the Truth in love, and preach Christ crucified. Again, good article. Thanks! J. Travis A. Homestead, FL
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Re: Quit Inviting People to Church
Posted On: 04/23/07 11:25:49 PM Age 31, FM
"Today is the day for relationship evangelism" No. Jesus says, "today is the day for salvation." The assemblu is for the breaking of bread/fellowship and the equiping of the saints. The assembly is not for unbelievers -- it's purpose does not make sense to them. If a non believer, though, happens upon the assmbly, the Bible says that the Holy Spirit will convict them of their sin and they will [fall to their knees/or fall prostrate in the fear of the Lord]. Good article, and much contrary to the seeker sensitive/emerging church movement. Just go forward in the love of Christ, speaking the Truth in love, and preach Christ crucified. Again, good article. Thanks! J. Travis A. Homestead, FL
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Re: just a little oopsie here
Posted On: 04/20/07 10:36:31 AM Age 51, OH
The verse quoted at the end of this excellent article should read Mark 16:15. Now - go!!
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Re: Quit Inviting People to Church
Posted On: 04/19/07 09:15:02 PM Age 37, KS
Finally, someone who is willing to take a stand on this issue! This haS pushed me one step further towards actually opening my mouth to share the entire gospel message with my unsaved friend. Thanks!
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Re: Quit Inviting People to Church
Posted On: 04/19/07 08:52:45 AM Age 42, OH
I have spent many years trying to share my faith using a variety of methods. I believe that friendship evangelism has been the most effective means for me. (Of course we can not see all of the results of our efforts and how the Lord of the harvest makes things grow.) In my experience I have found that when you take time to love and serve someone they will respect the good news coming from your mouth. On the other hand, it seems to me that it would be more difficult for someone on the street who doesn't know me and who I may never see again, to accept the good news I share. Bottom line: God is too big and too powerful and too infinite to be limited to only one form of effective evangelism. When the Holy Spirit draws people He can do it through a church musical, street preaching and friendship evangelism. The important thing is not our "sacrifice" of time, effort and method but our obedience.
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Re: Quit Inviting People to Church
Posted On: 04/18/07 04:56:25 PM Age 51, AL
Evangelism is urgently important. However, our first priority is to worship God in spirit and truth and bring honor and glory to his name. For this reason, and hopefully not for entertainment, we bring our very best offering of praise through music and other programs that are excellently done. He deserves our best! As we appropriately reach out to all men, let's not forget our chief purpose! I believe that when Jesus' name is lifted high in sincere worship, that men will be drawn to him. As our nation fights the battle to insure our freedom to worship in this way, please do not condemn it!
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Re: Quit Inviting People to Church
Posted On: 04/18/07 03:59:59 PM Age 45, IN
Amen and Amen! I have been saying this for years now. We spend a lot of time on the streets sharing the Gospel and I almost never invite someone to church. I have found that inviting a lost person to church only fills the pews with seat warmers going through the motions of thinking that they are saved because the attended church. If you share the Gospel effectively and Biblically and the person understands what you are telling them they will want to gather with other believers to learn more. And if that happens to be in a church setting you will have an on fire Christian that will want to do for someone else what you did for them. Praise God for this report!! I hope everyone reads it and understands it!!
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  1. Re: Re: Quit Inviting People to Church
    Posted On: 04/19/07 09:08:20 AMAge 42, OH
    Why do we need a formula that limits who God is and what He can do? Do we truly know the scripture? Andrew simply brought his brother Simon to see Jesus. Perhaps Andrew was just simply ignorant of all the "correct" evangelism methods that could be used! One of the most exciting things I have seen recently is some new people in our church who accepted Christ. They brought friends to the place where they heard the good news about Jesus. They simply didn't know any better! (By the way, the event was a Super Bowl outreach which would fit perfectly into some of the programs mentioned in the main article). By God's grace are we not all just beggars showing other beggars where to find bread? If the bread happens to be given away at our church would that be okay? A question for all of us that I often ask myself: Have we spent more time today involved with these types of discussions than we have praying for the lost and sharing our faith? If so, perhaps we have fallen into the category of people with which Jesus was always the most frustrated (Pharisees and Saducees). God help me!
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Re: Quit Inviting People to Church
Posted On: 04/18/07 03:56:00 PM Age 45, IN
Amen and Amen! I have been saying this for years now. We spend a lot of time on the streets sharing the Gospel and I almost never invite someone to church. I have found that inviting a lost person to church only fills the pews with seat warmers going through the motions of thinking that they are saved because the attended church. If you share the Gospel effectively and Biblically and the person understands what you are telling them they will want to gather with other believers to learn more. And if that happens to be in a church setting you will have an on fire Christian that will want to do for someone else what you did for them. Praise God for this report!! I hope everyone reads it and understands it!!
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Re: Quit Inviting People to Church
Posted On: 04/18/07 12:50:40 AM Age 48, FL
This guy is exactly right and this whole thinking of trying to get people into church to hear the message is the very thinking that is behind the whole seeker sensitive idea of church services. It totally misunderstands the whole concept of church. It's also quite ineffective. Turn it around. What if the lost were to try to reach the saved by creating "Christian Bars?" or "Christian Friendly Porn." It'd be ridiculous. The light hates the darkness and vice-versa. We need to "GO" and snatch people from the darkness. The nation of Israel were to attract people to the light. It's the whole mixing of the Israel with the Church that gets this misunderstanding. It's no wonder that the church is sometimes called a sanctuary with an altar, ect... It's approached like a Jewish Synagogue. Great article! Kees
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