Emergent Leader Tony Jones drops the F-Bomb on the Bible
| Posted On: 07/17/08 12:18:33 PM |
Age 60, LA |
Reading these responses to a legitimate objection to vulgar language is reflective of the degeneration of our society not to mention so-called church groups. One question. Can you picture Jesus using the 'F' word? He is our model, He is our standard. See how far we have degenerated!
Click here to reply to this post
|
Re: Emergent Church Leader Tony Jones Drops the
| Posted On: 08/02/07 03:26:23 PM |
Age 24, KS |
"repugnant Emergent punks"--really, Ken? You're honestly referring to another human being in such terms, albeit a person you disagree with, rather vehemently obviously? I shudder at the hatred your posts convey.
You criticize Tony Jones for cussing and you turn right around and insult him unashamedly. I wouldn't want my pastor to cuss, but neither would I want my pastor to encourage hateful comments and hateful attitudes.
Perhaps the words of the children's song are appropriate for you, Ken--"Be careful little mouth what you say."
Click here to reply to this post
|
- Re: Re: Emergent Church Leader Tony Jones Drops the
| Posted On: 08/18/07 04:42:26 PM | | Age 71, FL |
This language is so typical of the Emergent Church sect. It's seeker friendly (another name for PC in my view). I guess this approach to the Bible means the "church" should go to the gutter to preach to the new generation. I'm no purist when it comes to language, but it's the Gospel message that saves, not the messenger's morality.
More to the point, however, the Bible is only scary to the unbeliever. And good ole fire and brimstone preaching was scary too.
Hell should be a scary thing, and we don't preach enough of it. Sometimes you have to call a spade a spade, but not an f'n shovel. If the Christian does not respect the holy book, why should the gutter snipes respect it? Gutter language does not put the Bible in the proper context.
Click here to reply to this post
Re: Emergent Church Leader Tony Jones Drops the
| Posted On: 07/19/07 12:03:18 PM |
Age 33, NH |
While, technically, there might not be anything Biblically wrong with such language ... what does it say about us? Do we need to be like the world in this way?
Nobody wants his children to speak that way ... but what am I to say if my 8-year-old refers to the Bible the same way my pastor does?
This is clearly an irresponsible use of our freedom. And it does nothing to contribute to spiritual growth. Why create an argument within the community of believers over profanity?
The man needs his mouth washed out with soap.
Click here to reply to this post
|
Re: Emergent Church Leader Tony Jones Drops the F-Bomb on the Bible
| Posted On: 04/19/07 06:47:44 PM |
Age 28, MD |
It's truly a sad day when we see so many in the church rushing to defend the use of vulgar and profane speech.
"To fear the LORD is to hate evil; I hate pride and arrogance, evil behavior and perverse speech."-Proverbs 8:13
Click here to reply to this post
|
Re: Emergent Church Leader Tony Jones Drops the F-Bomb on the Bible
| Posted On: 04/06/07 09:28:27 AM |
Age 40, MN |
Ken,
I wonder if you realize that 100 years ago or 200 years ago or whenever, that even the most conservative church in America (yes yours) would be considered 'heretical' by the standards of the Christian community of that era. From the way you dress, the things you allow and yes, even on multiple doctrinal issues, that of course we see now as 'non-essential'.
So is it really helpful for you to continue to act as though you are the one guy and church that has it all right, that knows God's mind perfectly? How can you be so confident? God has made Himself known, I agree, but there is mystery, we don't have all the answers, we're human, we CAN'T. I really can't buy your critique here and a lot of what I see on this website.
Click here to reply to this post
|
Re: Emergent Church Leader Tony Jones Drops the F-Bomb on the Bible
| Posted On: 04/05/07 11:17:04 PM |
Age 25, CA |
Ken Silva needs to be silenced. He is only trying to divide the christian church. Also why is he afraid of criticism, by not letting anyone post comments on his blog? Ken, please stop. You are giving "christian" and "silva" a bad name.
Click here to reply to this post
|
Re: Emergent Church Leader Tony Jones Drops the F-Bomb on the Bible
| Posted On: 04/05/07 10:12:34 PM |
Age 17, IN |
Paul said in the Bible that "...all things are permissible, but not everything is beneficial." While the Bible does not clearly specify which words are innapropiate, we as Christians must not do the things that are detrimental to our witness.
The author of this article claimed, however, in a rapid fire of attacks on the Emergent church, that it is a common, accepted practice for adherents of this group to use such language as the f-word like the pastor in this story.
May I remind of you of one simple fact, Mr. Author? There are countless people who have come to a saving knowledge of Christ as their savior through what you have named "The Emergent Cult." It seems to me that if you are going to keep other Christians accountable in a Biblical manner, you will do it in a way that does not discourage these young believers. You need to point out the problems you see in the Emergent set of beliefs, but you must do it in Godly love. If you do not, you will show those who are spiritually immature that God's people not only disagree with one another, but that they are unwilling to settle their differences maturely. If you believe that you have something beneficial to say to those attempting to find Yahweh through a group of flawed people (like yourself), then please share with them what God has placed on your heart.
But if the words that you say do nothing to build anyone up, they are just as vulgar as the pastor's word to which you so strongly took offense. Vulgar speech is not limited to specific words not accepted in specific regions. The attacking tone you have taken with this article may be doing more damage than that pastor to whom you have referred.
This is just some food for thought.
Click here to reply to this post
|
Re: Emergent Church Leader Tony Jones Drops the F-Bomb on the Bible
| Posted On: 04/05/07 06:56:44 PM |
Age 65, KY |
It's JUST A WORD.
Click here to reply to this post
|
Re: Emergent Church Leader Tony Jones Drops the F-Bomb on the Bible
| Posted On: 04/03/07 06:29:07 AM |
Age 57, AR |
These responses are unreal. The guy wouldn't have used the filthy words if he were IN Christ. When or if you were saved, did you in your quest for the truth in God's word, cuss about it? I didn't! God made me Holy. He wants us to live Holy lives. There appears to be allot of learned people on this page. You may be smart, but not in the knowledge of the Lord, and his ways. The only word I can think to describe what I thought when reading some of these responses, is TOLERANT.
Click here to reply to this post
|
Read More Feedback
|
|
|
