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Re: The Islamic Republic of Minnesota

Posted On: 03/22/07 12:21:58 PM

Age 37, OH

As a Christian, I don't want to have to sell alcohol or provide certain services, therefore I don't work in an environment where I would have to compromise my faith. I would not expect my employer to change the rules for me and cab companies and Target should NOT show special treatment to others. These people know the requirements of the job when they apply for it. Why when a Christian refuses to sell porn or morning after pills, this person is judgmental and narrow minded? But if a Muslim refuses to do something in the name of allah, it's religious freedom. Jan Markell is correct and shame on the rest of you for attacking her.
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Posted On: 03/22/07 01:07:49 PM Age 53, IN
Amen.
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Posted On: 03/23/07 08:44:09 AM Age 30, MO
Amen. We should totally do away with religion!
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Re: The Islamic Republic of Minnesota

Posted On: 03/22/07 11:11:10 AM

Age 54, SC

Thank-you for your article.I have read some of the feedback posted and don't think that calling you a hypocrit was necessary or even correct. I believe that if a person objects to certain aspects of work-related tasks because of religious beliefs that they should be accommodated. I also think that regardless of one's religious beliefs one should know what the job description requires before applying for a particular line of work to ensure that it doesn't conflict with one's religious beliefs. I would also like to point out that it's not just Christians that would object to handling porn or morning after pills - Muslims would, too! However most Christians would not object to selling pork or transporting dogs while driving cab.
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Posted On: 03/24/07 01:39:44 PM Age 28, TX
I agree that certain aspects of jobs should be made known to the person prior to being hired. But consider this- if one applies at Target he might say "I don't want to work as a cahiere or in the meat dept." When told he wouldn't, he assumes he will not be touching pork products. However, they suddenly put him in that compromising position and he needs the job. Why, with all the other non-muslim employees, should he be required to do something against his beliefs? I was forced to work at a Halloween carnival- told that I would be fired if I didn't do it. They knew my beliefs, and this was not made known to me upon hire that it would be a job requirement. It was unpaid, even, and to make matters worse my dad had a heart attack just a couple of hours earlier and my mom had no way of reaching me while I was at the carnival. Still, I needed the job- just getting another job is not that easy. I worked at the ghost booth while my dad lie dying in a hospital. If I had felt the ability to cry "Religious freedom!" and walk out without being fired, I certainly would have done so!!
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Posted On: 03/27/07 05:27:42 PM Age 54, AR
Forced to work the job??? It is always a choice. Now I don't presume to know your circumstances then but we always have a choice. The choice may be hard,lose a job, lose a friend, lose our life, but the choice is there. We ultimately all will have a choice...choose Christ, not and ideal not a dogma not a relgion but Christ and Him alone. Our choices now may well determine what choice we make then.
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L'Etoile du Nord

Posted On: 03/22/07 10:25:07 AM

Age 30, VA

When you speak with such anger, hatred, racism and xenophobia, it only discredits any argument that you may have. You are merely appealing to the fear and racist dependencies in your readers. If you strip all of that out article what is left? The incident on Flight 300. That incident is being investigated and is at this point hearsay. True, it could have potentially been a serious problem that you should talk about. Last year, I was on a plane and three Hasidic Jews gathered near the exit doors for prayers. They began bobbing back and forth in their trance like ritual. Many people on the flight became noticeably worried. Why? I assume because they didnt understand who they were, what they were doing and why? Are these guys in some kind cult suicide pack? Are they going to open the doors in mid air and jump out? There is much to say about religious expression and fanaticism in a post 911 world. But all you do is antagonize and promote fear by conflating actual problems with venomous talk about American congressmen and people who dont like pork, dogs and alcohol. Im not asking you to be tolerant, I asking you to think.
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Re: The Islamic Republic of Minnesota

Posted On: 03/22/07 09:30:10 AM

Age 45, AR

Ms. Markell correctly points to us an ominous situation: These Muslims are not coming here for any other reason than to conquer by attrition, using our own laws against us. Do you truly want a Muslim nation? That is their goal. Take a look at how Europe and Canada are changing. This is not just a group of people with innocent beliefs. If you are a woman, especially, please educate yourself on what exactly this will mean for you. Yes, freedom means people are free to choose to sin, although as Christians we are to abstain, but check your BibleGod set up the world that way, not the way Muslims dictate. The Christian churches that do not denounce sin are not true Bible churches and are aiding Satan in destroying America (gee, is anyone surprised at Satans tactics). The true Christian churches are under attack by our nations emerging sociopolitical system, and if the trend continues, these true churches will be completely silenced as narrow-minded and bigoted. The hate crimes law will enable this. How dare Christians suggest that we are wrong! is the battle cry. Cant you see the whole picture here? Meanwhile, an oppressive (not just suggesting but forcing their way of life), false religion hopes to step in and take over. The compeller requested in a previous reply as evidence to wake the writer up to these facts is the Muslim objective, and it may happen in the writers lifetime. Search for quotes from Muslim leaders; they blatantly convict themselves. We (the Democrats in congress included) did not go to war to convert the world; we went to war to defend ourselves and to stop terrorism. Remember 9-11? Amazingly some people are accusing us of exactly what Muslim terrorists are doing. Our nation was founded upon Christian principles, and we are supposed to be free to express and debate our opinions and beliefs. Under Sharia Law that is not the case. God may well use the Muslims to punish the United States, but Ms. Markell is exactly right in her article to warn us. Instead of attacking her insight, why not join me, on your knees, in prayer to the one true God, the Christian God, and ask for revival for our land?
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Re: The Islamic Republic of Minnesota

Posted On: 03/22/07 09:18:20 AM

Age 73, MN

I am the daughter of a man who came to this country from one of the Scandinavian countries before World War I. He came to this country with the clear understanding that he was choosing to be a citizen of a different country. He learned English, served in the military during the First World War, and took a keen interesting in the culture of this country. He was a good citizen. His attitude toward people who would insist that they be allowed to carry their rules into this country would have been that they were wrong. He expected he would have to learn English, and that he would now be governed by this country's laws, not the country he came from. He was proud of his national heritage, but this was the place he was going to live and work--and vote. If he didn't want to be involved in selling products a certain place sold--he wouldn't have gone to work there. I live in Minnesota and I don't like what I am seeing in this respect. I agree with the columnist.
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Re: The Islamic Republic of Minnesota

Posted On: 03/22/07 09:16:33 AM

Age 39, MN

This issue is not about tolerance or religious freedom, it is about incrementalism. The more we as US citizens allow sharia laws to take precedence in our country over existing laws the quicker we become an Islamic nation. And there is no doubt that this is exactly what all Muslims want. The real question is how as Christians do we fight back against this attack on our freedoms?
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Re: Re: The Islamic Republic of Minnesota
Posted On: 03/22/07 02:00:22 PM Age 30, IN
Which Sharia law(s) are you (or any US/Minnesota citizen) currently obligated (by Minnesota or by the US) to obey? I know of none. Which US or Minnesota laws come even close to resembling any of the (Islam-specific) Sharia laws? I know of none. Which Sharia laws are close to being passed/enacted anywhere in the US? I know of none. But it's perfectly possible that I don't know of any of these things simply because I am ignorant of what's going on. Could you (or anyone) give me a list? Markell doesn't mention any, so I'm trying to figure out what I'm supposed to be worried about, and why I should think that Sharia law is lurking around the corner.
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Posted On: 03/22/07 06:39:01 PM Age 61, TX
WELL, JUST BE PATIENT, but know if you are, it will be too late to change what, once started will not be stoppable. Look at Europe, and I'm not talking just a few countries here. Check out what can be said and done on their street corners. Then decide if you want to risk what is happening here. What you see and hear are just the tips of many iceburgs, just waiting until their time, our weaknesses and the circumstances in the world are to their benefit.
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Posted On: 03/23/07 02:09:11 PM Age 47, CA
Unlike our so called war on terror, you are now speaking of infiltration and being taken over from within. This proves that Bush's policies don't work. If they cannot be "Levened" by us over here, how can we expect any puppet government we install over there to do it? Where in the Bible are we called upon to bring the wrath of government upon anybody? If a Muslim refuses to handle the pork chops you are trying to buy would this not be an excellant opportinuty to witness to them? While one cannot agree with their theology, one has to admire their dedication to their faith. Threaten most Churches with revocation of their tax exempt status and the back down very fast. We speak of "Our rights!". To that, I would advise you read another article in this forum titled "You have a right to be wronged." The moment we cry to the government about our rights as Christians, we lose any power we might have in our testimony.
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Posted On: 03/23/07 01:54:37 PM Age 30, IN
I don't believe that. I don't believe that one day I'll wake up only to read in the NY Times that Congress passed a law (and the Supreme Court permitted it) allowing men to beat their wives; allowing honor killings; allowing non-Muslim infidels to be harmed; requiring all citizens to pray to Allah, to pilgrimage to Mecca, to refuse to eat pork, and whatever else apparently belongs to Sharia law. It won't happen. Perhaps we'll gradually allow, by law, Muslims to be able to practice their religion in ways that we're not used to (e.g. requiring employers to allow prayer time for Muslims during the work day, etc.), like we've done for Christians, Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, Native Americans, and many others. But I'll bet you all the money that I'll ever make that, barring an actual military takeover by Muslims (ha!), I will never in my lifetime see the day on which the US requires non-Muslims to practice Sharia law. Again, which specific laws do you think are most likely to be enforced any time soon? Which are closest to being enacted right now? Will you take my bet?
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Posted On: 03/24/07 12:54:13 PM Age 61, TX
WELL I'M SORRY YOU DON'T BELIEVE WHAT I SAID BECAUSE IT'S TRUE. Last night on the news was a story about a judge in Germany who upheld a Muslim man's right to beat and mistreat his wife because he lived under sharia law, and the judge put sharia law over the laws of Germany. It was challenged, and the ruling was upheld. It has been appealed to a higher court. The last line of the story was "GOODBYE GERMANY"! I understand this morning that the ruling has been reversed, but I haven't verified it. But it's a start for them, isn't it? There's already an area in Canada that is considering allowing Muslims to LEGALLY ENFORCE SHARIA LAW because there are so many of them. That's old news. Where have you been? As far as our government is concerned, I think after this thing is set in motion, the USA as a democracy will be history. Boy are you naive. From India to the Mediterranean, there are Islamic countries, with the exception of the DEMOCRACY OF ISRAEL, and they're hell-bent (bent to end up in hell) trying to change that.
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Posted On: 03/25/07 01:03:37 AM Age 30, IN
I just looked up the case you mentioned in Germany. It is disturbing indeed, but it falls far short of what you suggested, which was that a German court upheld a Muslim "man's right to beat and mistreat his wife because he lived under sharia law, and the judge put sharia law over the laws of Germany." That's greatly overstating it. The judge refused to grant a fast-track divorce, instead requiring the abused wife to wait the German-law-mandated 1 year between legal separation and divorce - and refused to grant it because of the fact that both husband and wife were Muslim. Obviously there's a huge difference between refusing to speed up a divorce, on the one hand, and granting a right to beat someone, on the other hand (let alone "putting sharia law over the laws of Germany"). But despite the exaggeration (did you watch this on FOX News, by any chance?), you're right that's it's a worrisome development. Fortunately, Germans think so as well: According to Der Spiegel, "On Wednesday, numerous politicians in Berlin voiced their horror at the verdict -- and demanded disciplinary action against the judge." "In my opinion, this is a case of extreme violation of the rule of law...." said Social Democrat parliamentarian Dieter Wiefelsptz. Hardly a rolling over for sharia law. So while I agree with you that these kinds of developments are to be watched out for, it comes nowhere even close to being a case of non-Muslims being forced to obey sharia law. It's not even a case of enforcing sharia law for muslims; nor a case of requiring non-Muslims to allow Muslims to follow sharia law; nor a case of even allowing muslims to follow sharia law. I'm still very anxious to make this bet with you - all my money against the claim that the US (or Minnesota) will, in my lifetime, ever require non-Muslims to obey sharia law. And I'm still wondering which of the sharia laws you think are most likely, or closest, to being legislated here in the US. (Jan Markell should talk to CWN columnist Chuck Baldwin - he seems to think that Feminism is the greatest threat to the US. Any idea how the US will legislatively enforce BOTH radical feminism AND sharia law? I'd LOVE to see how that's supposed to work!! Perhaps they'll happily cancel each other out =) )
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Re: The Islamic Republic of Minnesota

Posted On: 03/22/07 08:56:01 AM

Age 37, MN

Jan, Now, you've gone too far! I am a Christian pastor and my best friend is a Somali Muslim. We will never reach Somali culture for Christ if we don't respect their cultures and traditions. I want desperately to see my Somoli Muslim friend come to Christ, but it is not going to happen if I take your attitude. Jesus is absolutely passionate about the guys who were on that plane, the cashiers at my Target store who refuse to handle pork, and the cabbies at my airport who refuse to drive someone who drinks alcohol. Do you know what my Muslim friends tell me? They say, "Why do so many Christians drink alcohol?" They are offended at our poor choices. Maybe my Christian pastor friends and missionary friends who like to pound a few back at the local bar could learn something from my Somali friends. We are not an Islamic Republic. The church in Minnesota is growing. We are seeing many of these Somlais give their lives to Christ. Your rhetoric is not going to help. I'm a Christian, who as a teenager refused to pour alcohol on my job at a restaurant. I refused to work at a place that sold porn. I refused to go to movies that had nudity and violence. Maybe we need to be as bold as our Muslim friends and stand up for our convictions.
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Posted On: 03/22/07 07:13:18 PM Age 61, TX
Dear youn pastor, please read the post that opens with "SO MANY PEOPLE ARE..." posted 3/22/07. It was written to you. God Bless you and multiply your harvest!
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Re: Re: The Islamic Republic of Minnesota
Posted On: 03/22/07 02:48:12 PM Age 44, ID
Do I care if the muslims are "offended at our poor choices?" I'm offended that their religion allows them to beat their wives. I'm offended that their religion allows them to kill family members in so-called honor killings. I'm offended that their koran puts women and children on a level far below men in importance as a human being, not counting all the atrocities committed in the name of islam against women and children, and their own people, and anyone that might not agree with them. I'm offended at their intolerance toward Christians and Jews, and other religions. They strain out a gnat of pork, and swallow a camel of revenge and murder. Jesus was not impressed with the Pharisees tradition, nor the traditions in our churches today; neither is He impressed with the muslims tradition and culture. Why are you? We love them as fellow human beings who have been created by God, just as we do anyone else. We respect them also as human beings who need the love of a Savior because they are lost, just like anybody else. We don't bow down to their agenda, or their lifestyle. They can complain all they want about America being the big Satan, but their own backyard is full of "dead man's bones"...literally. If their islamic-run country was so wonderful, why aren't they still there? Because it wasn't. They don't have hope in their countries. They don't have freedom. They came here because of the freedom and opportunity, and to obey the koran that tells them to conquer the world. They don't realize that when they show up with their religion, freedom and opportunity disappear...just like in their own countries. Convictions, from a muslim or a christian, don't mean anything if they are not grounded in Christ.If they are not under Christ and His grace, then they are under the law. You cannot be justified by the law before God, and if you can't follow the whole law then you are guilty of the whole law. You cannot justify your muslim friends by saying they don't drink alcohol. Do they lie, cheat steal? Are their hearts pure before God? Do they love the one and only true God with all their heart, mind and soul? Do they believe and follow the one true Savior, and are saved by grace? You can't measure their "worth" by their law. If its not founded in Jesus Christ, it's worhthless. Neither can you measure Christianity by your disorderly friends who have presented themselves as instruments of unrighteousness following lust and drunkeness. Your understanding is clouded if you think that out of the "two" evils that you presented, one is more worthy than another. They both stink. There is only one measurement that we are to measure anything by and that's Jesus Himself. All should be measured by His standard and criteria, not what this so called christian is doing or not doing right, or what that muslim is doing so well. We don't measure the Gospel or God by man's actions or choices. God is not the minister of sin. We measure our actions and choices up against, and by the two-edged sword of the Gospel and by Jesus' life and example. That is the only place to find truth, and there is no other God except the Great I AM, the Alpha and Omega, the One true God.
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Posted On: 03/22/07 07:20:31 PM Age 61, TX
Very well put. In mentioning the reasons why Islamics are coming to our country, may I add that they can be college-educated here, and then they are better instruments to radical Islam. Another reason is to help establish more terror cells, which are more prolific around the country than most realize. God Bless You
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Posted On: 03/23/07 05:57:00 PM Age 30, MO
Do you what muslims think when christian missionaries show up in their country? "Oh boy, here come those darned Christians. They're trying to take over the world and be all treacherous." Same argument. And how do you know that there are so many more cells than we know about? Are you hiding something? Why are you posting on the Internet when you could be on the job helping the department of homeland security tracking down these cells you somehow know so much about? hj hjhop.blogspot.com
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Posted On: 03/24/07 01:15:06 PM Age 61, TX
Muslims simply threaten the Christians, and kill them for speaking out or even owning a Bible. Then again, ex-Islamic Christians have had the lives of their children threatened in Michigan for speaking out about---actually running film clips---of the violence radical Islam is teaching and doing. Besides, the Christian missionaries come teaching love, and are no physical threat to anyone. (Don't get all historic on me--we don't live in the past, and I don't care what your gr.gr.gr.gr. parents did, and I don't know what mine did, so leave that out of this---for all I know yours persecuted mine because they were Irish!!!) Muslims are coming here with the express intent of spreading Islam via violence because they've been programmed from the crib that it's good!!! You asked if I was hiding something, the answer is NO!!! You asked how I know there are so many terror cells---the answer is posted in the feedback of this article---I'm TRYING TO GET THE WORD OUT, not hide anything! Why don't you just review the feedback and find that post, then you'll know my source??? And why don't you try to learn some of this on your own, instead of spending your time knocking Christians with your snide remarks. I still wonder what made you so bitter; is it because you're actually Islamic and you've been offended?
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Re: The Islamic Republic of Minnesota

Posted On: 03/22/07 08:11:34 AM

Age 46, WI

I live in a small community in western Wisconsin where the Somalians from Minnesota have infiltrated. They are not interested in acclimating to our culture. In fact, most are not even trying to learn English. The hospital and clinic has signs posted and forms printed in their language. They have even hired a full time translator. I am all for foreigners coming to America. That is how America came to be. However, they need to BECOME Americans and take on our culture. When in Rome, do as the Romans. Even their children don't learn English and are passed from grade to grade in the public schools without learning the subject matter. Just about every vehicle accident in our town has a Somolian involved because they get their driver's licenses illegally. People who don't live with these Muslims in their community really don't understand the way it really is.
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Re: The Islamic Republic of Minnesota

Posted On: 03/22/07 07:17:11 AM

Age 55, OH

Thank you, Jan, for recognizing the fact that citizens have not only a right, but a responsibility, to preserve their culture. There is a double standard represented here in some of the feedback comments. I have done some foreign travel, and I realize that it is expected (and it is respectful of the citizenry) to honor the host nation's cultural standards. For a group to scatter among the passengers of a plane and loudly criticize and downgrade the policies of the country that has their loyalty--whether the group members are a part of the home culture or not--is disrespectful and antagonistic. I do not hope to take away the critic's right to an opinion or to the expression of that opinion. The unruly, antagonistic public behavior is the issue. If a disruptive drunk can be removed from a plane for disorderly conduct, a disruptive sober person should receive the same treatment. Behavior--not alcohol--is the problem at hand. I am not aware of any culture in which provocative antagonism is excused or tolerated, because of the potential for confrontation. I can't help but wonder how a dissident would be treated in the Imams' home country for imitating their behavior in a public setting, as they did. Again, this is not a freedom of speech issue; it is a disruptive, antagonistic behavior issue that threatens peace.
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Posted On: 03/24/07 01:24:50 PM Age 28, TX
I should preface this that I was also appaled about the airline incident and how it was handled. I just want to make one comment on your post. You say we have the responsability to preserve our culture. What about the Muslims? They should have the same consideration, wither we agree with them or not. The American culture is not Christian, it's a 'melting pot of cultures and ideals. The American culture is neither right nor wrong. There are ELEMENTS of both. For instance, "The American Dream" is funamentally wrong, in my opinion. The deffinition of Success according to American culture is wrong. In fact, the 'Christian' holidays that are so intrenched into American culture are PAGAN. So why is it that we have to so ardently protect the 'American Culture' when what God commands us to do is to love Him and keep His commandments, which includes loving our neighbors AND our enemies?!? In the Old Testament God commanded the Israelites to stay seperated from the Gentiles to preserve their religion/culture/lineage. Well, we as Christians have not segregated ourselves into our own commune, so we have to be tolerant YES I'm USING THE WORD TOLERANT of other cultures that are represented here. I don't see a whole lot of loving going on for the Muslims (and not all of them are terrorists, many of them are women and children!!)
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Re: The Islamic Republic of Minnesota

Posted On: 03/22/07 01:04:15 AM

Age 32, CA

it's baffling that you decry muslims who won't handle pork or alcohol, but I am sure you would defend a christian's right to refuse to handle and sell porn, or supply a morning after pill. how hypocritical.
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Re: Re: The Islamic Republic of Minnesota
Posted On: 03/22/07 10:00:03 AM Age 28, TX
Although I am annoyed with the attempts of some Islamics to demand that things change for them, I agree with you about that particular situation as well. Some are trying to force Christians to sell birth control pills (which are abortificants) and other things they don't agree with, I don't see how it's any different. Well, perhaps some Christians feel that Muslims don't deserve the respect and care that Christians deserve...
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Posted On: 03/22/07 09:55:41 AM Age 35, OK
You missed the whole point- We are a land founded on CHRISTIAN beliefs, and democratic freedoms. You are free! Because God does not force us, we do not force you! You can either comply with your workplace or you are FREE to work somewhere else, just as Christians are. If Muslims cannot live in the U.S. and abide by our laws and way of life, they should live in Muslim countries- Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq...
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Posted On: 03/22/07 10:39:38 PM Age 19, VA
Im getting tired of this christianity = freedom bull. Where does the bible say that people have certain rights based on governmental authority and limits? It even tells christians to not associate with non christians, something that seems anathemic to the idea of a free nation, which may include non christians. of course you could call it a christian nation and say its not free, but then christianity doesn't equal freedom anymore, does it?
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Posted On: 03/23/07 01:48:10 PM Age 30, IN
EXCELLENT point! I've been disgusted, saddened, and immensely frustrated with how many Christians deeply confuse the notion of DEMOCRATIC freedom with the notion of CHRISTIAN freedom. They seem to think that freedom of the sort guaranteed by the US Constitution is on par with, similar to, basically the same as, or importantly analogous to the freedom we have in Christ. What profound deception!! Count how many of the 10 Commandments, for instance, we, as Americans, are "free" to violate!
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Posted On: 03/24/07 01:38:30 PM Age 19, VA
wow, I'm not used to seeing a response to my feedback saying that isn't negative, an attack on me or anything about me, or an indictment of liberalism. Thank you. I'm truly greatful.
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Re: Re: The Islamic Republic of Minnesota
Posted On: 03/22/07 09:38:14 AM Age 43, TX
Hypocritical? Are Christians bombing and killing all over the world? NO! Are they getting on planes and causing trouble and making threats and then suing the passengers for being nervous? NO! Every area in the world where there is fighting, Islam is involved. I totally agree with this article. Jan, thanks for having the courage to tell the truth.
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Posted On: 03/24/07 12:09:55 AM Age 30, MO
What about the drug wars in Colombia? Paramilitary fighting there. Oh wait, WE'RE funding that conflict--on both sides! Our Puritanical drug laws limit supply and do nothing for demand. The money to be made per kilo of coca is insanely higher now thanks to us. And we're funding the government forces fighting the drug cartels! How wacky is that! No Muslims. Just us. On both sides. Really. Check it out. And did you ever stop to consider that the reason that Muslims are involved in so much fighting is because there are a lot of Muslims all over the world and violence happens, and not because they are ALL inherently violent? And what about the massacre of Muslims in Bosnia? Surely the Muslim civilians who were rounded up and executed in Srbeniza (phonetic spelling) were not to blame for their own deaths? hj hjhop.blogspot.com
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Posted On: 03/22/07 10:41:53 PM Age 19, VA
no, christians just vote for those that will make the US army kill for them. What is it, 655,000 deaths now?And occasionally bomb an abortion clinic. but hey, who's counting?
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Posted On: 03/22/07 01:48:18 PM Age 47, CA
No? Did you forget the carpet bombing of Berlin, Pyongyang, Hanoi, Hiaphong, the fire bombings of Dresdyn, Colonge, Tokyo, & Osaka. The atomic bombings of Hiroshima & Nagasaki, the cluster bombing of Belgrade (By the way, the first time we ONLY bombed civilians) and our shock & Awe in Baghdad?(If you believe that all 4000+ bombs we dropped there were only targeted at military installations, I have a bridge to sell you too! Real cheap!) In the name of our agenda, the USAF has killed more civilian non combatants than all of the terrorist organizations combined. We ony do our dirty work from 20,000 feet up. Our "Suicide bombers" have silicone brains.
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