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Whatever Happened to Sin? ...One Christian Leader Suggests: it Could be in "The Genes"
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Re: Whatever Happened to Sin? ...One Christian Leader Suggests: it Could be in
Posted On: 05/01/07 01:02:34 PM Age 57, AR
I just listened to Mohler's radio program (archives) on www.almohler.com, and he says that there is not proof that this testing can be done, and he speaks against it. I couldn't believe he would thing positively about homosexuality. I would suggest that when there is a Christian radio show host, or in the spotlight, please ask them to come to world view weekend website, via audio or video.
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Posted On: 04/26/07 06:43:44 PM Age 50, SD
I defenitely believe that homosexuality is a sin. However, I would like to point out the possibility of hormone problems in males and females actually playing a part in some situations involving homosexuals. I have seen what happens to men who are using female homones as part of their prostrate cancer treatment. They certainly tune into a feminine side that they never had before! Could it also be possible that hormones being out of wack could lead a person toward homosexuality? If people are sensing that they have these tendencies even when they are not choosing it they should seek medical help and see if a homone imbalance is triggering it. We have a great deal of hormone problems today due to the hormones given to chickens and other livestock to get them to grow faster and produce quicker. This is not saying homosexuality is OK. It is simply recognizing that people may have these tendencies even when they are not choosing it because of a chemical imbalance in their system, very similar to mental illness. Lets have compassion for homosexuals and love them to Jesus. They may not have just a sin problem but a physical problem as well and we must have a heart to see them get help.
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Posted On: 03/28/07 10:04:07 AM Age 45, SD
I am not an intellectual mind. I have not read all the posts, so forgive me if my feedback is repitious. As I understand from what I've studied, when sin entered the world, it entered the physical creation. Our world is now imperfect, and we are living with the consequences of centuries of imperfection. Sin affected our physical bodies as well. Humans are born with all sorts of genetic problems as a result of the Fall. It is not hard for me to believe that, yes, there is a genetic malformation for homosexuality, just as there is a genetic malformation that leads to 6 toes. It is part of our original sin nature. I am not excusing sinful behavior, and yes, we need to confess all sin, even the original sin we carry, to God. That said, we are living in a culture worldwide that glorifies human choice. The choice to sin, to live out the sinful nature in homosexuality, gossip, gambling is our choice. Our choice to sin needs to be confessed to God. If I were born with a genetic mutation (and I am; sin permeates every molocule of my body) and there were to be a cure or course of action that could prevent me from exaserbating my condition, I could choose to seek treatment. In the case of homosexuality, choosing to refrain from living out the sinful nature can be done. We all must choose to live not according to our sinful nature that we are born with. This is what God wants. I choose to seek treatment for my sin-soaked genetically-mutated body by reaching out to God. He has created an opportunity for relationship with Him through our total sin-permeated genetic makeup. What a wonderful God we serve.
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Posted On: 03/25/07 04:30:59 PM Age 45, MS
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Re: Whatever Happened to Sin? ...One Christian Leader Suggests: it Could be in
Posted On: 03/25/07 01:48:37 PM Age 45, TX
While I completely agree with Mr. Camp's article, I think he left out one sin gene and that is the Calvinist gene. If he's going to include the Arminian gene (I'm not an Arminian, but I am a non-Calvinist) then he should have included the Calvinist gene. :-)
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Posted On: 03/24/07 12:05:24 PM Age 50, IL
Wow! a lot of thinking going on here. Let's keep our evangelism simple. KISS (Keep It Simple Saints) To change the world's view back to God, revival is needed. There is no way we will convince anyone that they are guilty of sin that they are born with... never! (a gene... a sin nature... etc.) However you define it. The great minds we are born with defies that kind of logic. We know we are not guilty of a crime we did not do (Adam's rebellion) or could not prevent (Adam's genetic tie). (My mother made me do it?) They are just excuses, hiding places for sinners. Our composition of reason, and logic will never accept this untruth. I was guilty of the crimes I made against God. The things I did that were contrary to his rules, laws and government. Every true convert realizes it is my sin that separates me from God and then we come to Christ. Let's not allow any sinner to hide behind any genetic ties. "If you love me... keep my commandments." Our brothers are rignt, the law will bring men to Christ, Preach the law... our schoolmaster. Love God! Obey Him! This truth is bringing revival.
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Posted On: 03/23/07 03:06:48 PM Age 52, FL
Yes, I agree with you I have homosexual friends that would love for me to put a seal of approval on their life style. I just keep pointing them back to what God says and add you should not be concerned with what I think. It is what God thinks that is important. They hate that. They know what God says and I believe down deep they know they are wrong. We must be careful not to fall into a Satan trap of altering the way we treat them because their sin is visible. It is hard to really love someone who is so wrong, only by God's Grace.
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Re: Whatever Happened to Sin? ...One Christian Leader Suggests: it Could be in
Posted On: 03/22/07 09:07:34 PM Age 58, GA
It is certainly time for true Christians to SPEAK OUT AND TELL THE TRUTH. Dr. Mohler is not writing in accordance with God's Holy Word - we can all just wait and see what God does with Dr. Mohler when he takes him to the "woodshed". Hopefully, all believers who read this article are fully versed in the scriptures and realize God's word is inerrant - this man has deviated to the world (Satan).
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Posted On: 03/22/07 08:15:07 PM Age 40, MN
Does Dr. Mohler think being homosexual is in the genes? Absolutely not. He is giving us a "what if" analysis that I have to admit is not one of his best. His article has created alot of confusion and the wording of some of the 10 points has led to more confusion. However, his follow-up article cleared it up for me. Dr. Mohler was only presenting the facts that he had discovered from several different sources. He is in NO WAY suggesting homosexuality is in the genes. He's trying to show what is happening in the real world today. Dr. Mohler pointed out a research project that is being done today. This study is on sheep. Dr. Mohler says, "Scientists at the U.S. Sheep Experiment Station are conducting research into the sexual orientation of sheep through" 'sexual partner preference testing'." The scientists doing this research really think they can change the sexual orientation of the animals. Not surprisingly, "homosexual activists were among the first to call for (and fund) research into a biological cause of homosexuality." There's another project that Dr. Mohler lists which is called "Preimplantation Genetic Diagnosis" (PGD). Dr. Mohler says, "this is one of the greatest treats to human dignity in our times. These tests are already leading to the abortion of fetuses identified as carrying unwanted genetic markers. The tests can now check for more than 1,300 different chromosomal abnormalities or patterns. With DNA analysis, the genetic factors could be identified right down to hair and eye color and other traits. The logic is all too simple. If you don't like what you see on the PDG report...just abort and start over. Soon, genetic treatments may allow for changing the profile. Welcome to the world of designer babies." Dr. Mohler throws in a scenario from an issue from Radar magazine, which I think is the reason for some more of the confusion. Here's the scenario from the article. "A woman is told that her unborn baby boy is gay...the woman is then told that a hormone patch on her abdomen will 'reverse the sexual orientation inscribed in his chromosomes'" Dr. Mohler stated in his article that "the Sunday Times (London) predicts that such a patch should be available for use on humans within the decade." This I think is the reason for Dr. Mohler's whole article. Dr. Mohler wants Christians to be prepared for what could happen if we buy into the idea that the world feeds us that being homosexual is in the genes. I think his intention was more of a warning to Christians not to accept the idea that sexual orientation can be changed. At the end of the day, don't buy into the reasoning the world gives. Stick to the truth of God's Word. Carl
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Posted On: 03/21/07 07:40:33 PM Age 24, KY
Dr. Mohler, having been bombarded with questions regarding the article Mr. Camp is referring to, has since posted another article (on his website www.albertmohler.com) explaining what he meant. It's a must read for everyone who was confused about his statements.
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