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Emerging vs. Emergent Churches: Clearing up the Confusion
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Emergent
Posted On: 03/20/08 12:35:01 AM Age 47, CA
Ryan. Do not confuse Mars Hill Mi Rob Bell (Emergent) with Mars Hill Wa Mark Driscoll(Emerging). These two churches are totally opposite in their doctrine!
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X-LDS
Posted On: 03/20/08 12:28:22 AM Age 47, CA
Thanks for giving clarity to the confusion! Pastor Mark Driscoll of Mars Hill Church in Seattle Wash would be considered "Emerging". Cutting edge church yet they stay True to biblical doctrine! In fact , He has a great sermon about the "Emergents" llike Rob Bell and Mcleran. Bottom line. The Church must preach the Law to the proud, Grace to the humble. The Cross of Christ is foolishness ( doesn't make sense), to those who are perishing! The Emergent movment and their "social justice gospel" will make a better world for humanity, while a lost and dying world are going to Hell!!!!!
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Re: Emerging vs. Emergent Churches: Clearing up the Confusion
Posted On: 03/13/07 06:47:37 PM Age 73, TN
Until the tower of babble there was one culture, one language, one people, one economic system, one predominant opinion, and as one they started to bark up the wrong tree. God decided diversity is the best pursuit. Competition of interpretation is good, and the pursuit of truth is healthy. I believe God wants us to learn how to think not what to think. How to think always gravitates toward truth, and the truth will make you free. More power to diversity, what God has rendered asunder let no man reunite!!!
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Re: Emerging vs. Emergent Churches: Clearing up the Confusion
Posted On: 03/13/07 03:47:54 PM Age 21, MN
This is by far one of the best articles I've ever read on this website. You were clear, concise, and factual. You didn't let your personal opinion into the matter until the end, and even then you articulated it in an unoffensive manner. I'm proud to say that for the most part I agree with you, though I don't see the emergent church as a cause for too much concern. While different churches associated with the emergent church can have quite liberal theologies and ideologies, they have not lost the Jesus as their savior. Political and theological differences don't effect salvation. I'm far more concerned about the remnants of the fundamental movement, who is isolated and non-understanding of today's society and culture. The emergent church understands the questions and concerns that non-Christians have, and most of those concers and misconceptions of Christians were fueled by the fundamental and judgmental soapbox preachers. --- Blessings in Christ -Ryan
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Re: Emerging vs. Emergent Churches: Clearing up the Confusion
Posted On: 03/13/07 01:46:13 PM Age 52, WI
I have been getting e-mails with titles about the emerging/emergent church and I am glad to read this current explanation because I didn't know much about the emergent movement. I am thankful I became a Christian 30+ years ago when searching for truth didn't seem so complicated and confusing! There are times when I just want to shout "Shut up!" to all the talk shows, books, seminars, bible studies, counseling advice, philosophies, grab my Bible and go off to a quiet place where I can hear God speaking again. NTF
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Re: Emerging vs. Emergent Churches: Clearing up the Confusion
Posted On: 03/13/07 01:43:51 PM Age 25, MN
I've become fascinated reading this website almost daily and how much emphasis you put on maligning the "emergent" church.
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  1. Re: Re: Emerging vs. Emergent Churches: Clearing up the Confusion
    Posted On: 03/13/07 07:28:49 PMAge 28, TX
    Did you also want to add that you think we're a bunch of stuffed-shirt boogerheads while you're at it? Talk about adding nothing to the discussion... This is why I don't believe that the Emergent "conversation" deserves its self-bestowed title.
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    1. Re: Re: Re: Emerging vs. Emergent Churches: Clearing up the Confusion
      Posted On: 03/15/07 04:26:36 PMAge 25, MN
      Why do you think that I hate the Evangelical church?
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      1. Re: Re: Re: Emerging vs. Emergent Churches: Clearing up the Confusion
        Posted On: 05/01/08 12:47:01 AMAge 54, FL
        Nice try, but you're only fooling yourself. You sure you want to continue to do that?
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Re: Emerging vs. Emergent Churches: Clearing up the Confusion
Posted On: 03/13/07 10:34:57 AM Age 36, AZ
Thanks! This article was helpful to understanding the terms and I think I agree that NOT using the term "emerging" would be a good thing.
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Re: Emerging vs. Emergent Churches: Clearing up the Confusion
Posted On: 03/13/07 09:43:38 AM Age 52, IN
Thank you for the information, it was very helpful. I understand wanting to present the Gospel in a way that people will identify with, but I don't want to compromise God's Word in any way.
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Re: Emerging vs. Emergent Churches: Clearing up the Confusion
Posted On: 03/13/07 09:23:08 AM Age 50, ID
Thanks for this timely article. I was concerned for just a moment until Jason gently acknowledged that the term emerging should be avoided. Methodology, however, is also a cop out term for emerging Churches and should be avoided. Through my job I meet Pastors every day. Through these interactions I try to learn about their emphasis on evangelism. The sad truth, at least in my area, is that most churchs say they are reaching the post-modern culture, but are not. They seem to beleive if we build it, they will come. If we look like the post-modern culture, they will come. If we dress like the post modern culture, they will come. (you get it). When confronted they just say our methodology has changed but not our doctrine. When you stop using Hell, sanctification, justification, sin, etc. your methodology becomes your doctrine. Thnaks again.
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Re: Emerging vs. Emergent Churches: Clearing up the Confusion
Posted On: 03/13/07 08:52:11 AM Age 38, IL
I appreciated the article a great deal. I just have a few points of disagreement. Jason writes, "The church must recognize that throughout history the tactics weve used in communicating the gospel message have regularly changed." While that is true, especially as it relates to new technology, it fails to point out that throughout history there have ALSO been major shifts in the understanding of orthodox Christian doctrine. The Protestent reformation being the most obvious example. Writing of the emergent church, Jason writes, "...I have noticed an increasing trend towards theological revisionism, theological liberalism, and an open embrace of postmodern philosophy." These labels are too vauge to be helpful. On the other side of the issue, I suspect we would here people say the emerging movement began because we recognized an "increase in theological arrogance/pride, fundamentalism, and an open embrace of modern philosophy, which many find incompatible with the Christian faith." While I appreciate Jason's tone, like most who address the emergent/emerging movements, Jason fails to deal with the legitimate weaknesses within evangelicalism that gave birth to emerging/emergent movements. The protestent reformation would not make sense outside of it's relationship to the teaching and practice of the Roman Catholic church at that time. Likewise, the emerging/emergent movements do not make sense outside of their relationship to mainstream evangelicalism today. I would love to see an article on the weaknesses within evangelicalism that helped give rise to emerging and especially emergent movements. mdd
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  1. Re: Re: Emerging vs. Emergent Churches: Clearing up the Confusion
    Posted On: 03/13/07 03:51:47 PMAge 21, MN
    very good point! I agree like 99% (and I can't even remember what the 1% was about)
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